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20. Temmuz 2010, 01:59:56
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: Probably true. Blame the media on his rise to fame. Idiots like those on MSNBC were getting "chills up and down their legs" (seriously, who in the media talks like that about politicians???). Also, Obama made many promises, numerous claims, and when the reality of the Presidency hit him, he had to break promises etc. So in some ways he set himself up for his drop in popularity.

It's interesting that within a year one began hearing liberals talk of buyers remorse. Put "buyers remorse obama" in a good search. Interesting.

20. Temmuz 2010, 01:52:41
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Artful Dodger: Nobody can expect to maintain the status he attaind.He peaked far too soon, but he does have enough time to regain some lost ground

20. Temmuz 2010, 01:49:00
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: You are quite right. I think what's most interesting is how Obama started out as the Messiah and now he's getting the Persona Non Grata status.

20. Temmuz 2010, 01:42:20
The Col 
Konu: Re:
The Col (20. Temmuz 2010, 01:43:24) tarafından düzenlendi
Artful Dodger: Look up where Saint Ronny was at this point in time in his first term as President,Clinton also.While I am not overly impressed with Obama so far, he could easily improve by leaps and bounds in the opinion polls

19. Temmuz 2010, 21:20:34
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: YOu should read it. It's written by a black man and so his perspective is important to really understand the issues.

Bush got us into a mess but Obama is pushing us in deeper. All the financial experts are warning that we cannot sustain this massive debt. But Obama doesn't listen. Even his own financial Czar is telling warning him.

19. Temmuz 2010, 21:13:50
Papa Zoom 
Konu: liberals seek to enslave the black community in order to maintain a devoted, monolithic, voting electorate.
An excellent essay:

NAACP: ‘Useful Idiots’ of Liberal Racism
by LTC Allen West (USA, Ret.)
Let me make one thing very clear, my Mother, Elizabeth Thomas West, was a lifetime membership holder with the NAACP. Therefore growing up in our home I clearly understood the mission and vision for this organization. It was a mission and vision that enabled me to have the pride in myself and the heritage of my parents, grandparents, and extended family. It was a mission and vision that, to me, fostered a desire to excel beyond the standard and have a commitment to excellence regardless of skin color.



However, something has happened to that mission and vision, something horrific and inconsistent with the principles and values I recalled emanating from the “ole school” black community. Somewhere along the way victimization mentality has taken root in the black community resulting in astronomical unemployment rates, high incarceration rates, appalling murder rates, breakdown of the black family, and embarrassing teen pregnancy rates.

And in the light of all these negative socioeconomic indicators the NAACP decides that the preeminent focus of their national convention would be on issuing a resolution castigating the Tea (Taxed Enough Already) Party movement as racist. Even Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas was so compelled as to state that the Tea Party is filled with Klan members…..but we will get to the Congressional Black Caucus a bit later.

Instead of maintaining its mission and vision, the NAACP has now become the “useful idiots” (a term coined by Vladimir Lenin) for liberal racism. They have made themselves into a political hack job organization which now seeks to maintain the liberal progressive socialist control of the 21 century plantation. It is on this new economic plantation where the liberals seek to enslave the black community in order to maintain a devoted, monolithic, voting electorate.


I find it interesting that the NAACP was silent when Senator Harry Reid made his insidious comments about President Obama was favorable, likeable, because he is “light-skinned” and did not speak in “negro dialect”. I recall that the NAACP said nothing when Vice President Joe Biden referred to Barack Hussein Obama as “clean and articulate”. The NAACP said nothing when liberals attacked Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice (birthing tubes cartoon), Michael Steele, and General Colin Powell.

In 2008, where was the NAACP to denounce the obvious case of voter intimidation by the New Black Panther Party? Why did the NAACP not demand President George W Bush, and now, Attorney General Eric Holder, and the Obama adminstration, to prosecute this case to the fullest extent? Does the NAACP now support the same tactic which targeted the black community seeking to restrict the most fundamental of American individual rights, the right to vote? And shall the NAACP distance itself and condemn Malik Shabazz and the New Black Panther Party?

It is this duplicitous hypocrisy which allows me to state that the NAACP is shamefully now a liberal racist enabler. The upcoming mid-term elections have the Democrat party in certain peril. Therefore they have turned to their tactic of first and last resort, race baiting.

The resolution issued by the NAACP against the Tea Party is just a strategy to focus this coming election not against liberal progressive policies, which are anathema to our Republic. No, the NAACP, in conjunction with their masters, the Democrat party, seek to make this into an election based upon an insane charge of racial hatred.

We even see charlatan blasts from the past such as Julian Bond stating that Martin Luther King Jr was a socialist, a feeble attempt to garner black community acceptance of the liberal progressive agenda. We are truly on the verge of a dangerous situation in America. And yes, this also includes the lawsuit being brought against the sovereign State of Arizona, an attempt to win Hispanic votes…..an extension of liberal racism to another minority group.

We can fully expect from now until 2 November 2010 to see the usual suspects come out to promote the dishonest tyranny of the liberals. You will find the Congressional Black Caucus, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton out to ensure blacks remain wedded to the failing liberal social welfare policies, all the time shouting how the Democrats know what is best. I find it comical that Al Sharpton has already leapt forward to head up a new left-wing grassroots group to counter the Tea Party called “One Nation”.

Does One Nation believe in higher taxes and bigger government? Will this counter group promote individual rights and freedoms, liberty, and adherence to our US Constitution? I presume this group will seek to intimidate and put forth the ideals of collectivism combined with victimhood and expansion of the “nanny-state”.

I find the Tea Party, to which I have spoken to several times, stands for fundamental principles and values consistent with that which has made America an exceptional Constitutional Republic.

Therefore, under the “leadership” of Al Sharpton, this counter group One Nation obviously stands for principles which are antithetical to our Republic.

One Nation under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All

In closing, I am sure you are asking why did the ole Colonel just cite the last sentence in the Pledge of Allegiance?

Liberal Racism does not believe in One Nation under God. They believe in a Nation of subjects organized into collective groups under which they shall rule, not govern, in a secular humanist based society.

Indivisible, Liberal Racism does not believe in “e pluribus unim”, they prefer a balkanized America where they can pit us against each other through their manipulated messages….such as Tea Party racism.

Liberal racism does not believe in Liberty and Justice for All, they believe in freedom defined by a ruling class elite while creating more victims who become dependent upon their dishonest benevolence. Justice in the world of Liberal Racism means social and economic justice rooted in a principle of leveling, which founding father Samuel Adams spoke against. Al Sharpton defined justice as everyone having the same in every home in America…..government engineering of results and outcomes.

The mid-term elections of 2 November 2010 comes down to “One Nation under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All” or the concept of One Nation under the proprietor of victimization Al Sharpton, a simpleton crony of Liberal Racism. Which shall you choose?

19. Temmuz 2010, 21:09:27
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: It's not just the Right. It's the Left and a huge number of Independents. Independents are the ones that voted him into office. They will decide the next election as well. So much for hope and change. Hopelessness and Charades.

19. Temmuz 2010, 20:59:03
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: Yeah. Obvious after I had to point it out.

Obama is losing ground with the Left, and even middle-of the road Democrats. More and more you hear them talk about buyer's remorse when it comes to Obama. And we know he's a liar. He campaigned as a centrist, but leads from the left. Most of what he's for, the majority of Americans are against. He doesn't represent the people.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=buyer%27s+remorse+Obama&aq=f&aqi=g-sx1g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=6f146f4f6152193c

19. Temmuz 2010, 20:52:36
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: You apparently missed the point of the article. It's the press's job to research fairly and across the board. They probably know things about Obama that they aren't going to print because it won't reflect well on him. That's bias. But with Bush, they even made things up (see Rathergate).

19. Temmuz 2010, 19:57:03
Papa Zoom 
I think it is remarkable that within a week of Tiger Woods crashing his Escalade, the press found every woman with whom Tiger has had an affair. In the last few years, with photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc. And, they not only knew the cause of the family fight, but they even knew it was a wedge from his golf bag that his wife used to break out the windows in the Escalade. Not only that, they knew which wedge!

And each and every day, they gave America more updates on his sex-rehab stay, his wife's plans for divorce, and the dates and tournaments he will play in.

Obama has been in office for over a year now, and this same press:

· Still cannot find any of his childhood friends or neighbors,

· Or locate any of Obama's college papers or grades,

· Or how he paid for a Harvard education,

· Or which country issued his visa to travel to Pakistan in the 1980's,

· Or Barry Soretoro or even Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis on racism.

· They just can't seem to find them.

· Yet the public still trusts that same press to give them the whole truth !

Truly remarkable!


Monty Pelerin blogs at www.economicnoise.com

19. Temmuz 2010, 07:17:27
Papa Zoom 
Konu: It just keeps coming from the left.
Papa Zoom (19. Temmuz 2010, 07:18:09) tarafından düzenlendi

19. Temmuz 2010, 07:13:53
ScarletRose 
Boy what a topic for a public board on a family site.. 

19. Temmuz 2010, 07:10:36
Papa Zoom 
<span><span>July 18, 2010

Obama lied, babies died

Jeannie DeAngelis
It's hard to comprehend that intelligent people believe Obama speaks the truth. A simple question: If an individual encourages<span> coldly tossing<span> a barely breathing infant into a laundry room to die and uses the upholding of the original intent to kill the baby as an excuse, is it logical to assume such a person has a high regard for truth?<span> 

Barack Obama supports<span> killing the unborn<span> and if by chance the infant should happen to "burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion" by refusing to die, Barry disagrees with providing a helpless being medical care. Plain and simple, Obama is cold and heartless.<span> 

If<span> lying were an art, Barack would be its master.  Liberal pro-choice advocate Barack Obama "successfully opposed including language in the [health care reform] bill to prevent federal subsidies for abortions." The President intended to quietly advance an "abortion-expanding agenda through administrative decisions."<span> 

When it appeared a few sentimental pro-lifers jeopardized Obamacare, it didn't<span> take much<span> to sway the easily fleeced Bart Stupak and seven left-leaning lackeys. In order to pass health care reform the President lied to gullible pro-life Democrats, signed a phony executive order, and swore health care would not fund abortion.

Obama might as well have pulled a dirty tissue out of his pocket, called it an executive order and after getting the credulous to agree, crumpled it up and filed it in the "easily deceived" category.

After health care reform passed, taxpayer monies are now going directly to abortionists in Pennsylvania to make sure murder is amply funded.  Under the new national government-run health care program, "the Obama administration will<span> give Pennsylvania $160 million<span> to set up a new "high risk" insurance program." Named after pro-choice champions Pennsylvania Governor Ed<span> Rendell<span> and Health and Human Services Secretary<span> Kathleen Sebelius, the program is called the Rendell-Sebelius plan, which is Obama-speak for taxpayer-subsidized abortions.

The Rendell-Sebelius federally-funded insurance program is being presented as monies to cover "preventative care, physician services, diagnostic testing, hospitalization, mental health services, prescription medications and much more."  Get out a yellow highlighter and underline the words "much more."

Let's do the math. If all of the $160 million dollars go to fund first trimester abortions, which run about $350.00, it calculates to be 457,143 human beings successfully sluiced from society. If a meager $40 million dollars were spent to cover "any legal abortion...except sex selection," that would assure nationalized health care 114, 286 fewer sick people to worry about, which would ultimately benefit the Obamanomic bottom line.

Besides the lies, Barry has, under duress, legally bound pro-life Americans to tax-tithe to the First Church of Obama's most highly esteemed charity, government funded abortions.  If Barry gets his way, which he always does, regardless of religious affiliation or moral conviction Americans will fund feticide.

Obama claims when it comes to ending a pregnancy, "The decision generally is one that a woman should make." Yet, the President's dictatorial decrees deny choice to those who don't support abortion.  Obama is intolerant toward conscientious objection and denies religious exemption. Barry's policies force the resistant to hand the abortionist the suction and scalpel by financially aiding and abetting the<span> executioner. <span> 

If America is in search of an apropos motto, here's one that fits:<span> Obama lied and babies died. The next time Barack finishes speaking and turns to walk from the podium, look closely, his<span> pants are on fire.

 

Author's content:<span> www.jeannie-ology.com

19. Temmuz 2010, 07:01:35
Papa Zoom 
Konu: It's not going to be a good thing.
July 18, 2010
A preview of what Obamacare has in store for us
Ed Lasky
Massachusetts was the role model for ObamaCare and has provided us a glimpse of the future that awaits us. Not only has the state been forced to clamp down on payments to health care providers and tried to bully health insurance companies into bankruptcy (by trying to force them to lower their premiums) but now businesses are canceling health coverage for their workers and telling them to become wards of the state:
The relentlessly rising cost of health insurance is prompting some small Massachusetts companies to drop coverage for their workers and encourage them to sign up for state-subsidized care instead, a trend that, some analysts say, could eventually weigh heavily on the state's already-stressed budget.
Since April 1, the date many insurance contracts are renewed for small businesses, the owners of about 90 small companies terminated their insurance plans with Braintree-based broker Jeff Rich and indicated in a follow-up survey that they were relying on publicly-funded insurance for their employees.
Companies pay a relatively small fine for not offering health care insurance for employees - roughly $295 annually - so they find it worthwhile to drop the coverage, pay the penalty, and let Massachusetts taxpayers take over the healthcare premiums instead.
How will this dynamic work when Obamacare kicks in?
Come 2014, when the bulk of the federal health care law goes into effect, the penalties for small companies that do not provide health insurance coverage will be less onerous than those in Massachusetts. That could tempt more small companies to opt out nationally, sending more workers to the public rolls - if health care costs can't be restrained, some analysts said.
Now, the health care laws in Massachusetts are a bit different than those that will operate at the national level. For example, Massachusetts imposes penalties for employers with more than 11 full-time employees while the federal will penalize companies that employ more than 50 workers. But the incentive for companies to drop health care coverage for workers will be even greater.
The result?
The projected expenses for Obamacare have been woefully understated. Businesses across America will respond in the economically most rational way: have taxpayers pick up the tab..

19. Temmuz 2010, 06:50:38
Papa Zoom 
Konu: A perspective that explains well my positon
The Republican party is not trusted and is benefiting from being the only alternative. People that attend Tea Parties are not Republicans, but Independents that have rejected the status quo and the choices between Democrats and Republicans. The Republicans failed us in mismanaging two wars and allowing, spending wildly while in power, and encouraging fraud in the financial sector. If Conservatives and Independents cannot remove the yoke of the Republicans and provide a real alternative, we will never recover from the excesses and statism of Washington. Conservatives and Independents should have a new motto: "No more Scott Browns now or in the future."

18. Temmuz 2010, 22:35:23
The Col 
For Americans:
Canadians do not have the degree of freedom of speech as persons in the United States enjoy. Legislation in Canada follows the British tradition, as do laws in Australia, New Zealand and some other former colonies. In particular, with a few exceptions, citizens are not allowed to incite or promote hatred, or advocate or promote genocide against certain specified groups

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_hat6.htm

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:54:28
Mort 
Konu: Re:The problem I have with laws against racism, and anti semetism is, it doesn't change minds, it just pushes them underground, where they fester.
Jim Dandy: True.. it can. Yet at the same time for those who openly commit acts it saves time in the courts.

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:51:06
The Col 
Konu: Re:

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:43:16
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: fair enough. I have to run anyway. Have a great sunday.

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:42:03
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Artful Dodger: it's my lazy sunday afternoon,I would do the topic an injustice to tackle it to your standards,and besides, you don't pay enough

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:39:04
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: No, I don't get the gist of it. You used the word stupid. Upon what standard would you deny free speech?

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:38:04
Papa Zoom 
Konu: More race manipulation by the White House
Ed Lasky

America - at least Americans who keep up on current events (and not the "sanitized" and "censored" versions delivered up by the usual suspects) - know that Eric Holder's Department of Justice has adopted race-based policies as its guiding principle. But there are signs that it did not all start with Holder.
From the National Review
The village of Port Chester, N.Y., is governed by a six-member board of trustees. Elections for the board were conducted on an at-large system - every voter looking at the same list of candidates - until 2006, when the Justice Department sued Port Chester under the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
But not enough Hispanics were being elected by the citizenry of Port Chester, so the diversity police at the DOJ went into action. In their view , the wrong people were being elected - despite the fact that no citizen had been barred from voting nor had unjust qualifications imposed on them. But Port Chester is 50% Hispanic so the absence of Hispanic representation on the board of trustees angered lawyers at the DOJ. Defense and resistance was "futile".
Town officials pointed out, with supporting data, that some large portion of their Hispanic population was ineligible to vote, not being citizens, and that voter turnout among the rest was low. Resistance was of course futile. A new, more complex voting system was imposed, along with the notoriously leaky "early voting" rule, and a Hispanic trustee has now been elected.
Engineering the outcome of elections-as was done recently by Holder's DOJ in Kinston, North Carolina and is being done increasingly throughout the country under the iron fist of the DOJ did not start with Eric Holder. Clearly, there are some attorneys at the Department who have favored this type of control before the reins were turned over to Eric Holder.
He, and his boss, Barack Obama, have just stepped up the pace-exponentially.

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:37:25
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Artful Dodger: I wouldn't use the word "stupid" if I was filing a legal brief, but you get the gist

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:34:19
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: Who determines what's stupid? Can YOU determine it objectively?

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:33:33
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Well, at least we've got some transparency now.
July 18, 2010
White House: We lied when we denied the insurance mandate was a tax
Rick Moran
Faced with the probability that the Supreme Court would deep six Obamacare due to the unconstitutionality of the individual mandate for all Americans to buy insurance, the Obama administration has switched gears and is now saying that their critics were right; that the mandate is, in fact, a tax:

When Congress required most Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty, Democrats denied that they were creating a new tax. But in court, the Obama administration and its allies now defend the requirement as an exercise of the government's "power to lay and collect taxes."

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:32:36
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: and like a kettle, it sometimes boils over.I believe in freedom of speech, not freedom of stupidity

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:25:02
The Col 
Konu: Re:
The Col (18. Temmuz 2010, 21:25:31) tarafından düzenlendi
(V): The problem I have with laws against racism, and anti semetism is, it doesn't change minds, it just pushes them underground, where they fester.

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:24:46
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: You dont REALLY have free speech in Canada

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:23:32
Papa Zoom 

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:17:19
Mort 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: The Racial Discrimination act came into force in 1976.

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:14:10
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: Maybe that's why when I read that letter I am appalled.In Canada it would be considered a no brainer in regards to the letter being racist.

18. Temmuz 2010, 21:12:36
Mort 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: I'd imagine most if not all Commonwealth countries have the same regulations.

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