Looking at what you have all ben inputting.. I reckon a game of chance will be best :)
I want to make it fair to all...
Also as steve says, a lot of us rooks would probably give the prize to a pawn anyway..

I want to make it as fair as possible, Also your idea IMupChucKing is good too... I could run 2.. one for the higher ranked.. one for the lower...

I was going to do a years membership.. but I could split it into 2 six months..

anymore suggestions/help appreciated

I can only speak for myself Steve, But I think you play a tournament to win. If you want to play a game for fun, or to get experience, tournaments are not the place. Tournaments are for winning.

Thats why I suggested flights.... all players between 1700 to 2000 for example.... I know people make mistakes etc, but no one ranked at 2600 is going to lose to someone ranked 1500.
BUt there are also games with more luck involved ie battleboats, and backgammon, where most people feel like they at least have a chance to win.

A tourny thing isnt a chance thing, its a competition for god sake LOL
I think its stupid when players leave a tourny or wont enter it, just cos best player is in it. Everyone is human and makes mistakes sometime. And I am happy when I get to a final against a player like that.
If you are bothered by a certain player winning all the time, then just stick to pleasure games.
You dont see F1 racers not entering a race for a prize etc, just because Ferrari always win. see what I mean?

Normally the winner would give a prize to a pawn or knight anyway if they are a Rook etc already, so whats the problem.

The only problem with doing a "line" game is that I can already pick the 2 or 3 people who will probable win the thing. :-(

Battleboats? There anyone has a chance! :-)

Maybe you could find others who want to offer a prize tournament, and make several 'flights' of a game, each offering a membership?

Stevies faves tourny

Games:
• Checkers
• Gothic Checkers
• Turkish Checkers
• Five in Line
• Reversi 6x6
• Reversi 8x8
• Anti Reversi
Have fun and enjoy the games,
Steve :o)

Thats the problem Chatty... It almost has to be a game with a measure of luck to it, so anyone who joins at least has a sense of a chance to win. Otherwise, it is only an exercize in patients for the expert player, who will ultimatley win, if they dont get too bored waiting for the tournament to end.

Have a look at the ratings page, 5 in line is popular, or spiderline 4 etc

Thats what i was think steve... I know there are a lot of gammon games.. but really don't know what else is popular!!!

Do something other than Gammons Chatty :o) every body does that.
Maybe a line game for a change

Ha ha ha ha!! i mean the game! the prize will be a membership !Lol

1000000$ would be nice

I would like to do another prize tourney as my other is just about to come to an end.
Can i have some suggestions on what people would like please ?

Good job Steve! You too Harley! ;•)

Hi all, probs sorted so donation made finally of 41 Euro = $50
Dollar donation tourny
So along with the 20.5 Euro that Harley pledged (50cents per player, so hopefully you will remember to send it in) Thats 61.5 Euro = $75
Thanks for those that joined :o)
Steve

The prize tournament starts in exactly one week. If you have not done so you can enter HERE and make a donation to brainking all at the same time. Prizes include $50 to the overall winner and a 6 month free brain knight membership to each section winner. Please enter. This tournament promises to be great fun and exciting to see who the winners will be. Thanks ;•)

One week left for signing up in the 2004 First Quarter Opens.
March 28th.

Only one more day to sign up for Madmonkeys 'Gammon' Stakes (3) tourny, all 5 variations to choose from :o)

Terrific going BBW!! I bet No.1000 is going to be really special!

That's something to howl at!! :) I really like his fast starts. Those are my favs. Thanks BBW.

Update: -- 815 --

You can click on "My Tournament", and choose all... and that will list all the main tournaments.

LOL.. do you keep that info written down BBW? its an impressive record!

813 tournaments currently finnished/running/waiting signups on the main tournament boards & my Battleboat & Backgammon fellowships.

This does not include a couple of "test" tournaments created that were not really played out, and that does not include MANY tournament that were created and then wiped out when BK crashed and we went back a few months.

.... since you asked. :-)

You won't go wrong with BBW guiding you, UNIV. EYES. He's the master of the Tournament around here! I wouldn't like to guess how many he's created.

Yes, bring up the tournament.

then click the link that says "Back to the list of game types"

You will then see the "Close" option to close the tournament. And then you will see the "Start" option to start the tournament.

Let me know if you need more help!

CCan any one let me know how to start Tournaments at our WHAM BAM fellowship?

Your right bumble,LJ deleted me three times from the tourney adn my Father and my Brother and Chatty.Hope Chatty gets back on soon i like playing her.would you like a Game bumble

if that is directed at me, Im sorry :( but will swear that no part of that post or any other of mine on here is a copy paste from any other board.

I stand scolded Bumble and as long as -------- keeps off my back....
the name will be like 2 four letter words and i wont use it again :)

This is TOURNAMENTS. If you have a personal issue with anyone take it elsewhere.
Also, copying and pasting from one part of BK to another contravenes the BK rules.

We all know what happened concerning the said tournament(s). Let's put the topic to bed.

If you have any constructive criticism concerning the avoidance of a repeat performance, feel free to post BUT posts containing personal attacks will be deleted.

Well obviously reading between the posts many posts have been deleted...as usual...he does it all the time...that isnt anything new:) Im pleased to see that the world has awoken to the the LJ phenomenon...now I probably wont be told """Which one, children?""" or some such remark when I post something about LJ, cause now all of us are doing it.....How times change, and "how the worm turns"

I queried a tournament of his long before all this hit the fan only to be abused (by LJ)and cried down by some of the people who are now jumping up and down...

bad luck I say :)...learn to live with it and pick your tournaments....LindaJ's seems to be the real go and it is backed by those that count at BrainKing...Fencer and His Staff :)

I agree with BBW...the ability to remove your own post should be removed..it makes nonsense of real peoples conversations.

and yes "why discuss something if you dont want your view known"

... and the ability of people removing their own post should also be changed - why discuss something if you don't want your view known?

Privacy - I still think there are big privacy issues with this site, but I know that few others feel the same way I do, so I will live with it. I don't know if I'll renew my membership because of it when it comes time, but I've had my say about the issue so there is little reason for me to talk about that issue anymore.

huh? - what 180 degree change?

You brought up how some people are able to "hold up tournament" - I defend that because it is "within the rules", but at the same time I suggest other possible time systems here - possible having one like DailyGammon has.

Why I don't defend what you have done (even though it is in the rules) is because you are purposly trying to mess people up and cause trouble. (Where most (NOT ALL) of the people who hold up tournaments usually have a reason - which is not just to mess others up). But at the same time, I have made suggestions on rule changes that should also be made to the tournament so things like you have done does not happen again.

one thing for a tournament, and then just before starting it, change everything. Just because it is allowed under the "rules" doesn't mean it meets the spirit of the rules. The rules were never intended to allow for this sort of abuse. People are upset. Tournaments are for the players, not the person who starts the tournament. If someone advertises "fast start..first five....3 day limit" and then changes it to first 10 and a 30 day limit without letting the players know, it's simply wrong. It's a bit arrogant, IMO, to decieve people and then cite the "rules" as a defence for the misleading falsehood.

... which is why it is good to discuss it here - to hopefully get the rules changed so they are not exploited by certain players.

that Fencer can change it back to its advertised time control?

I'm not sure that it should be deleted, but possible a way for users to get our of them without getting counted as loses.

Why
1) Pawns & Knights have limits on the # of tournaments, and they would not have joined such a big tournament if it was not a prize tournament.

2) Many only sign up for tournaments with shorter turn limit. In this case, the tournament was changed to 30 days between moves, which could make the tournament even longer.

I'm not asking that anything be deleted. I join tourneys all the time but I am careful not to join the ones that the name of it is obviously someone causing trouble. Those I do not join because I don't want to be involved in the childishness or bothered with whatever argument is going on at the time. I'm really asking that something be done about the name of the tourney being changed once it has started. I don't care to be caught up in the childishness! Something is very wrong that a tourney name can be changed like this one has been. I would have never joined it if I had known what was going on and I am sure there are many other players that are feeling the same way right now.

Why should any tournament be deleted? All *-* tournaments are free and the "ex-2 year rook prize" has 64 players! There are many free tournaments with no prizes and they have only 5 players, so why delete such a big tourney?

Actually about 10+ different tournament were renamed with the "." name.

The one that has most people upset is the one that was a Prize tournament which "Would not start until 200 people signed up" - but that description was removed, and then the days per turn was moved to 30 days per move, and started before many knew anything changed.

The other tournaments being renamed is just a user causing trouble, and I don't think any of those need to be deleted (maybe just renamed to something "unique" by the admin's of the site)

I have been playing in the tourney that has been renamed "-". I wondered at the time why it had changed..now I know. BUT I only have one game left of this "-" tourney so I hope it won't be deleted because it will soon be over. At this point I would hate to have all of the games...wins and losses deleted! BUT I just looked thru all of my games to see how many I had left of the "-" tourney and found that I am now playing a tourney that has been renamed What a Shame. Where did that come from?????? I would have never joined it if it was named that! To me this is really NOT right to change a tourney name once members have joined. I play here for FUN...some people have for sure forgotten why they play or their fun must be only for causing trouble for other people..which is very sad! I have NO desire to be caught up in silly childishness when I join a tourney!!!! I come here to play and relax! This is ridiculous! Now I am in another tourney that I had NO idea was going to turn into a personal tourney that the creator has renamed for his own reasons????In the mean time Fencer can something please be done about this happenning in the future?!?!?!?!?! And if you want to delete What a Shame please do! And no I won't resign and loose my rating...but in the future I will be very careful that the person that has set the tourney up can be trusted to be an honest person and won't change anything once people have joined and it has started!

Thanks Walter I'm tickled you'll be rejoining the fun. I'm very excited about the BK fund raiser and have been from day one. I can't wait for it to get kicked off. Fencer has been very much involved as has Harley and I thank them both.
He has also been extremely generous with the prizes he has added in.
SO, if anyone doesn't want to miss out, you have until March 29th to sign up and pay the $5 donation. This is going to be a blast with prizes awarded for every section, it should keep it quite interesting and all eyes glued to it to see the winners. Again thanks to everyone that joined and the best of luck to each of you. ;•)
If you haven't joined and would like to get in on the fun, you can do so HERE A special thank you to those that aren't playing and made a donation too.

Just my luck to join the site as a paying member earlier in the month and then get trapped into this when it was just coming to a head.
Oh well. Hey, so far it's been unanimous for your tournament LindaJ. Perhaps I was too hasty in my assumption of how it goes here. When I was a nonpaying member, none of this affected me as the rules wouldn't let me join more than one tournament regardless of how many games I had going. So I didn't need to be all the interested or involved in the running of tournaments. Now that I'm able to create my own and want to attract players to join them, it's a whole different ballgame.
So of course as luck would have it, the first tournament I join after becoming a paying member is the "-", though it had a different name when I signed up for it. There's a name for drawing the wrong conclusions from too little of evidence. Ah, yes, I jumped to a conclusion. :(
Welper, I think I won't wait any more and will rejoin LinaJ's tournament shortly. Everyone has vouched for it so far, I am beginning to see the tournament that I was hoodwinked into joining was an anomaly and the exception to the rule.
Bernice, I have yet to see anyone take LongJohn's side in this, but then the post is only a few hours old. Which was the reason I was going to wait a few days in the first place. Most of the recent postings to this board have been by people that have had some communication here and amongst yourselves for awhile. All of my postings were in a different area over a year ago. Perhaps we should kick it for a few and see what else is said, eh? Thank you for your support. And hey, damned if you, damned if don't isn't a good place to find one's self in.

I will probably get pounced on by LongJohn for this, but I have had my doubts of this person now for 2 months and have OPENLY said so on this board and one other board only to be cried down and told to take my complaints elsewhere.
Maybe I am too quick to judge or maybe others are more trusting than I am, but LongJohn appeared to me to be artificial shortly after he introduced himself to me and requested to join my fellowship.

I understand just how you feel and actually wrote to a couple people on here with misgivings about his tournaments and the fact that he had changed the rules:( I said I was reluctant to post on THIS board the fact that this had happened, because of the abuse i would have to endure from LongJohn. I was told to just let it go as people would find out in good time....obviously too late now...

I would apologise to you and others that I didnt post on here about the change of rules and the fact the prize would not be on offer....IM SORRY
it was a case of "Im *edit* if I do and Im *edit* if I don't"

*edited by moderator

PS I am such a bad guy apparently, so maybe its a good idea to get rid of people like me from a site like this. Who are just detrimental to the site.

LOL You are not forking out to be in mine I am, I would fork out again to be in yours. I will be paying 10 times the amount when my paypal account is sorted out (yep got a silly prob with it :o( )and then the two prize tournies that I also have on the go at the same time on top. So already gonna put in best part of 100 dollars of my money.
Sorry Linda :o)

Sorry you did Walter. I'll pm you before the start date to check.
Steve I joined yours, join mine. ;•)

Walter, the Linda J tourny is in a completely different league to the other one you are on about. I dont think you will be dissapointed by rejoining :o)

I have already dropped out of your tournament LindaJ. I suppose I might rejoin it. Let me see what happens first. I have until March 29th, right?
A day or two, maybe three should see what happens. Stirring things in this manner makes for unpredictable results. Though it did get a few things off my chest, it might come back to haunt me later. I feel I'm right in this and have said my peace. Looks like there's two more of us who agree with me on this. I'm feeling better about it now.

Walter please do not pull out of the fund raiser tournament. I can assure you nothing in it has changed and all prizes will be rewarded.

I would be highly upset with 14 losses due to someone else also. They are going to be some more very upset people when they realize the tournament they entered by LJ is no longer a prize tournament.
In all fairness I think the tournaments he created as prize tourneys need to be deleted. Maybe Fencer can do something about the 14 losses.

You are not the only one Walter who is not happy about what he has done. It causes concern for many of us. The newest version of BK which Fencer is working on will prevent these types of things from happening ever again as he is implementing code in to the new version so that tourneys set cannot be changed with out an administrators ok first. The members and pawns who are now suffering from this guys deception must be quite upset. I would be too had I entered in to his contest. I had suspicions about it before it started and they were confirmed. His excuse that too many people were whining about how legitamate it was caused him to delete it. If he wanted to prove he was legitamate he would have kept it up. Going through this board I see every post he made has been removed by him I would suspect.
Suffice it to say any tourney he is to set up again will be moderated fully and all players made aware to ensure this doesnt happen again