Foxy Lady: Thanks. Now if someone sends me a story, I can test out how that works and if people like it. And I hope people check out the links pages too because there are several links up.
Foxy Lady: Neither was I when I went along with it. I was just going with the flow.
So far ONLY TWO people have given me feedback. Just so folks know, after FRIDAY I'll be posting the guidelines again and we'll see where things go. If you want to know the direction of my thinking, read below.
ScarletRose: I just wanted to let you know i wasn't making fun of you.I was trying to follow the story nd came up with the traps.You know i'm not a story teller and always wrote very short posts to any story.The post about the mouse did get a few laughs for fun not to make fun of you.
If anyone has a story they have written and are willing to send it to me, I'd like to post it on the web site and see how it works and then what ya all think ;)
ScarletRose: I'll see if I can find some definitions. I can see something like what you posted working well if people were of the same writing skill level. But even though I have a good imagination and am a storyteller in a semi-professional way, I don't write as well as some of the stories I've read on here. I don't know that we can expect the same level from everyone. The website could accomodate a more serious storyline or even a private FS. But in the public forum, it's a different matter. I agree that it's a lot of fun.
I hope people check out the web site and let me know what they think of it and my ideas behind it. Critical comments welcomed too. I'm going forward with my ideas on the premise that "If you build it they will come" so criticisms may help in shaping what I am trying to do.
As for this forum, much of it is up to the folks. ;) But as a public board, many of the rules for participation are set by the Users Agreement ;)
ScarletRose (24. Ağustos 2006, 01:03:29) tarafından düzenlendi
Modified ONLY to make it more readable ;)
Groucho: I view story tag as quick responces with little thought.. I saw these additions similar to the stories we would write (years ago) at IYT.. where they were thought out.. and contained bulk.. most who would participate made up their own characters.. we had a great time.. lots of mystery.. lots of laughs.. and lots of peeps who just like reading them..
I found a story and thought I would share some of it..
Topic: Addicted to IYT From:§»§Huggz§«:*´`³¤(¯`'¤¸(¯`Cathy´¯)¸¤´¯)¤³´`*:»§Kissez§« (higgsfam)
Subject: Cathy reaches into her mail box.. pulling out the Thursday flyers, and bills.. suddenly an offwhite envelope drops to the floor.. HMmm?? no return address, she thinks to herself as she slips her finger along the seal to pop it open..
Slipping out the card snuggly fit inside she smiles as she reads.. "Your are cordially invited!" and hurridley she opens it to find.. "To attend The IYT annual Picnic located at the IYT Town Amusement Park" scanning quickly over the details she runs back towards her home.. to arrange the travel arrangements and dates her calendar.. WOw.. that is this weekend!!
She calls in her reservations and prepares her bags to leave..
Later that evening she arrives at the IYT Town Hotel and checks in.. Looking around the lobby to see if she recognizes anyone..
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From: §APACHE CHIEF OF THE MESCALAROS (cochise4)
Subject: ... Cochise finds a message left on his machine... ... Damn, the message is 3 days old... He quickly informs his first mate that he will be away for the weekend and that he is to retrive the longlines on his own... Only have time to pack a dufflebag and will pick up anything needed when I arrive... A quick look around proves that packing should be done slowly as he picks up the almost forgotten pipe...
Subject: One question.. are there 'coasters?....and how long are the lines? (okay, that's two questions, but from my town of Nobody Cracked Here, that's alright.
--------------------------------------- From: §APACHE CHIEF OF THE MESCALAROS (cochise4)
Subject: ... Upon entry...... Cochise spends almost 3 hours at the airport checkin while trying to explain the white powder in the pipe... After a quick call to the reservation he gets the results that he was waiting for... Damn uninformed airport police, Oh well ... Off to the hotel and a much needed nap...
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From: Paranoia Promoter (raven1111)
Subject: Raven checks in on her message board and finds the invitation to the iyt event. Dang i hope im not too late!
Running into the lobby, I see most everyone is still by the pool, only most of them are burnt to a crisp and sipping brightly colored drinks with funny umbrellas in them. Oh well, I have some serious making up to do. Barkeep! i will have a Sour Apple Martini please and get the next one ready, this one wont take long to drink! Hi everyone! welcome back cathy, how was the trip?
--------------------------------------- From: §Foxy Lady(proud member of the ES Mob) (Foxy Lady)
Subject: Ok Cathy i'm here i got your invite Did i miss it all or are you all in the ER burnt to a crisp?
--------------------------------------- From: §Big Bad Wolf ²ººº at the beach party (silverbullet111)
Subject: Sneaks over to the beach nearby ..............Wow lQQk at all the bikini babes :P SURFS UP
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From: §APACHE CHIEF OF THE MESCALAROS (cochise4)
Subject: ... Ok OK!!!... I'm here, now where is my room??? cochise runs past all the people wanting to see if he brought the pipe and hides in the elevator... Damn, If I don't get some rest I'll pass out in front of everyone...
Subject: After freshning up some, Cathy steps out of her room... and heads down to the pool reaching the patio she quickly heads over to the barmaid placing her order for a Long Island..
Sipping slowly on her refreshment she glances around.. mingling through the crowd.. first passing Foxy and recalling that date to be her last wedding date.. adding that must be a popular date..*giggle*.. after short convo Raven stops over.. I had a lovely vacation.. just wish I could have visited more with a Special person.. adding that Erika and her family were very nice and is definately like a sister she never had.. I also was able to meet up with my oldest daughter and her special someone.. before returning home.. It was the most memorable vacation I have ever had the pleasure of taking.. True, real.. down to earth meetings.. How is your summer treating you?? Any vacations in the near future for you?.. Glancing more around the pool and noticing Erika, Excuse me.. I am being called from the other side.. perhaps we can catch up more after a bit..
Cathy steps over to Erika.. announcing the RollerCoaster she noticed from the cab on the way to the Hotel.. including the camcorder is all set and ready to catch the expressions from those who dare to ride it.. LOL..
Soon the barmaid walks over handing Cathy another Long Island.. she quickly gulps down the rest of the first one.. feeling a bit light headed in a good way..
HMmmm.. wonder who all will be here?? Glancing more around the patio..
Subject: oooooooohh no ya don't..Erika instructs one of the kids to remove the battery from the camcorder, as Erika's had enuf pics taken for the next 5 yrs. (!!!) The lil' one gives Erika the camera battery, without Cathy noticing, Erika runs inside, hits the elevator button, and notices some passed out Indian Chief riding up and down in the elevator, with nobody else present. "Oh well" she thinks to herself.. wonder if he'll notice that i've exchanged this battery for that intriguing looking white powder.
Erika then begins to walk back outside, anxious to ride the coasters, when she hears somebody yelling "WHERE'S MY PINK LIGHTER???!!!" Whoops, she makes a 180, hoping nobody notices..
Subject: Cathy stands down at the patio mingling with everyone.. realizing that Erika has the whole night ahead of her to wait out.. Since the trip to IYT TOWN Amusement.. doesn't begin til Tomorrow!! LOL
Where is that battery from my camera.. Hmmm.. good thing I brought spares..
Subject: Raven is now on her 3rd Martini and feeling mello. Thats good that you had a nice trip, cathy. When my children were young, road trips were the best thing for them. they got to see a different place almost every day and didnt get bored. we would drive during the night when they were asleep in the back seat, so we didnt hear alot of "are we there yet". lol I did go on a vacation to boston just last week to visit my daughter and i plan another in august to the deep south to visit relatives. I bet it was nice to see your daughter again, i know how hard it is having them away from home. Man its getting hot out here, im going for a dip, talk to you later. Raven takes out one of the rafts with the drink holders in it and lays down on the water to soak up the afternoon sun.
Subject: The Princess finally arrives... ...she looks around very nervously hoping to get aquainted with everyone here...hmmmmmm feeling thirsty-i need a drink! 0:-)
--------------------------------------- From: §APACHE CHIEF OF THE MESCALAROS (cochise4)
Subject: ... One long island iced tea comming up...... Cochise ,now refreashed decides to help out the hotel by serving drinks...
Subject: Long Island iced tea? mmmmm yummy! Princess starts sipping on the "iced tea" very slowly...very satisfied,her mouth is no longer dry..thanks cochise! its very nice of you to help out!
Subject: Well hello Princess.. :) It is always nice to meet up with new faces.. Hope you enjoy the events of this week..
*motions to the barmaid for another round*
--------------------------------------- From: §»§Huggz§«:*´`³¤(¯`'¤¸(¯`Cathy´¯)¸¤´¯)¤³´`*:»§Kissez§« (higgsfam) Subject: and you certainly look so kewt in that short cocktail hula skirt with the coconut bra like top!! *giggle*
Subject: I want one in Hot Pink..... Hey girl friend.. Good to see ya make it!! Getting set for the bbq later? and then the Amusement park.. ?? wonder if we will get to meet Pat Chu.. ??
Supper time. Let me hear your thoughts on what I've said and all that ;) Be sure to check out the website (it's posted above) ;) I just started it last night so......don' t expect much ;)
The Whisper: "If people choose to make long, descriptive posts, that's great. If people choose to make short to the point posts, they should have that right too. Being this is a public board, all posts should be encouraged as long as they are on topic."
ScarletRose: I thought it was a story tag. Maybe it has a different name. There's StoryTag, chain stories, and Roundrobin stories. I thought these were all the same.
I hope you'll think about the changes I'm proposing and then people like you who do write alot will have an additional outlet (the website working in conjunction with this board) ;)
I am sorry if I stirred the pot.. I hadn't meant to.. I just felt it was rather obvious an outcome.. I send you the story quotes..
"And then he saw the other. The person was running towards him with the beast following. They were too far away to tell if it was a man or a woman. But whoever it was, the beast was chasing after them. And both of them were running straight towards Jim."
The above paragraph is what I was imagining when I wrote my part..
"Glancing all around she turns and runs directly toward a figure in the distance. The Pteranodon drops even lower and nips a bit of her hair, he swooshes upward shuffling a breeze and a clasp of blond tresses hangs lightly out of his clenched bill. Grabbing at her scalp she steps up her pace and screams a bit.. but, exhaustion soon took over and she collapsed onto the ground.. Looking up she swings her hand to shield her eyes and stares directly into the eyes of....."
I guess I just assumed that whoever picked up the story would automatically know (if they were keeping up with the rest of the story) what direction it was taking..
I guess I felt as though I were being laughed at.. or the story was being shrugged with a quick snappy comment and then several more who made light of that comment .. I enjoyed the story line.. even with the outrageous characters.. since it was made known that the island made Jim see Mirages' of what he was imagining..
Speaking as a writer.. although unpublished, I wish to mention how difficult it is to be inspired to begin with.. and that inspiration can easily continue throughout with blending thoughts and imaginations working together.. or it can diminish quicker than a snap due to lack of flow.. I hope I am not coming accross as whinning which I never intended to let out.. I simply was very excited at the story, since it wasn't story tag.. and wanted to join in..
Papa Zoom (23. Ağustos 2006, 23:39:26) tarafından düzenlendi
The Whisper: if someone starts a story and others can add to it, then, whoever adds to the story makes the twist or the turn. I don't think it is fair to say "This has to be serious" or "This can be silly." The thoughts and ideas of those who participate are what counts and what makes the story original
And Floozie said something I'll probably include as well. Pluse other suff. I'm working on it now. :)
The Whisper: I agree and learned that lesson. What you have just posted is right on and is the only way to run a story tag/chain story. I hope people aren't getting the idea that that is what I am proposing. I've changed my former point of view on it pretty much to what you just posted below. ;) (you said it well)
Groucho: I think that if someone starts a story and others can add to it, then, whoever adds to the story makes the twist or the turn. I don't think it is fair to say "This has to be serious" or "This can be silly." The thoughts and ideas of those who participate are what counts and what makes the story original. I would not like to be in your shoes and have to decide "Which way do I want the story to go." This is getting wayyyyyyy complicated. :)
Jim Dandy: Good question. I don't see it so much as a major overhaul as offering more choices for the board (within a manageable structure) and providing a place to share story links, post stories members have written (and post only the link here) and whatever other ideas develop.
This board was pretty dead with postings few and far between. I seriously doubt that story tag only will attract lots of people. It's limiting in my view. So I'd like to try to expand the activities here (within a workable structure) ;)
If you want a say in how things develop over the next several days, feed back NOW. ;) I'll keep things open until the end of the week (for an open discussion right here) and then put something into effect. After that, only feedback via PM is desired. I hope to get back to the story by the end of the week (either the old one or a new one...whatever people want. If I decide what to do we will stick with the current story line) ;)
Ok, changes are on the way. I've removed the guidelines and I'll explain what's going on.
Basically this public board was barely breathing. The story tag (also known as chain stories and roundrobin stories) entries were few and far between. Initially I tried to manage this by stopping the chatter and directing the story. Well, that didn't work and I obviously made a few mistakes. It's clear to me now that if you have a public board and a public story, that (within reason) you simply have to allow any and all contributions as long as they are following the story line. But story tag alone is probably not enough to make this board attractive so I'm trying a few other ideas.
I'm still working out all the details but I want feedback. ;)
* I've made a website where I will put the guidelines. Once completed, posters will have to access the website to read the guidelines. I will post something above at the top of the board page but don't want to have too many guidelines posted (otherwise people will have to scroll down for the first post...)
* I've started a links page and will continue adding what I've found. Members contributions can be sent to groucho-m@comcast.net.
* We have many good writers on BK and many people have written their own short stories. Members will be able to submit their stories to me and I will post them on the web. If members have many story contributions I will likey give them their own pages. It's easy to do.
* Story tags will not be the only activity on this board. But I'm still thinking through the logistics. Other activities may include: * posting links to member story contributions * discussions or comments on members stories * story tag stories, when finished, will be posted on the web page * limited story related chat * other ideas?
There will likely be a guideline that if we are working on a story tag, then that and only that will be allowed (with maybe exceptions to announcements). But as I see it, story tags are but one aspect of this board.
Comments may be posted here. Suggestions for the web site may be posted here. Once we decide what we want (shouldn't take long) we may finish the current story (or begin a new one...I'm for finishing) and then get on with things. If we all help, we can bring this board to life and have lots of fun with stories.
One thing: In case anyone is wondering. Should the ideas I have work out and the website (after a time) contain a lot of member stories - AND - should a new MM take over (one day---anything is possible---but remember I'm a life member hehehe) the web site will stay with BK. It's easy to transfer any and all data to a geocities free website.
After a time, if there is success, we can join the web ring too. ;)
I need to hear from you otherwise you will just get MY ideas.
Also remember, if 6 people have 6 opposing ideas, not everyone will get what they want. Just like in real life. ;) We're adults and we can all handle that.
Skyking: Oh bother, I just wrote a long reply and then lost it. :/ In a nut shell, I'm working on a few things but for the moment would like to keep the discussion open on how the board is run. I think Foxy is right in that the guidelines need to be followed. They look fair to me. Floozie is right in that it's a public board and all posts should be encouraged as long as they are following the story line. This would have to include Apes and T-rexs and mice ;) Apologies Jim Dandy. I'm still learning.
I have joined a story tag web ring and am researching how others manage the story tag. So more on that later.
Other ideas include story discussions (not during a story tag "game" however); sharing of links, and sharing of stories found on the web (or even sharing of personal stories people have written.
There are a number of ways of handling these things (including me making a Storyboard website where I include stories people have written and then the link can be posted here). I'm still thinking.
This board used to discuss stories and celebrate authors in addition to the tag game. However, during a story tag / chain story I think we need to agree that the board would get cluttered with other stuff going on too.
Do people want this only as a story tag board? Or do people want story tag plus?
As for the current story, if we stay with it, T-rex, the ape, and the little mouse stay in the story too. As I said, Floozie is right that it's a public board and all contributions (within reason) are encouraged.
I probably will add one guideline to the above with respect to adding to the story. I'm still thinking that through and after my research is completed, I'll share it with ya all.
Foxy Lady (22. Ağustos 2006, 03:09:59) tarafından düzenlendi
Groucho: You can't please everybody your the main mod and you posted guidelines.IMO the story is ruined long ago and is getting boring.If ppl can't follow the guidelines or rules of a board than they shouldn't post.
NOT a floosie: ;) Yeah. I'm just trying to figure out how to make things work better in here. I'm going to do some checking and see what I can come up with to make things simple but I suspect that you are right on. I suspect that we'll have to just go with the flow and follow the story where ever it leads. ;) (as long as a Purple Dinosaur doesn't show up)
Looking up she swings her hand to shield her eyes and stares directly into the eyes of.....
a tiny field mouse.
One of the things, in my opinion, are stories that surprise the reader's emotions, or being able to change the emotion of the reader. This is what keeps people reading. Was the introduction of a new character out of line? Obviously, it was a workable post as the storyline easily went on.
If people choose to make long, descriptive posts, that's great. If people choose to make short to the point posts, they should have that right too. Being this is a public board, all posts should be encouraged as long as they are on topic.
Clearly, my post of "a tiny field mouse" completed the thought of the poster before me.
Konu: Re: Let's get this story ended and start fresh by your guidelines.
Skyking: I care. I want to know what people expect. I've got some ideas going in my head and when I have time I'll post them and get feedback. Everyone's thoughts are important here.
Konu: Re: Let's get this story ended and start fresh by your guidelines.
Jim Dandy: No worries. It's not the end of the world. I think different people have different expectations and different levels of expertise in all this. I kinda screwed up SR's entry too. We'll get it all sorted out. ;)
Konu: Re: Let's get this story ended and start fresh by your guidelines.
Groucho: I happen to enjoy the current story.. it shows unique imagination.. It would just be nice if others offered new characters.. and took those roles on..
I certainly don't think we should change stories.. I just think that it should be stated that this is impromptu.. those who make additions should realize longer posts with more details would be more appreciated than a quick one-liner.. which leads really to nothing..
for instance.. in my earlier addition.. I made my character run towards Jim.. I didn't say Jim.. I left that open.. but, it was to be assumed it was Jim.. since the earlier bits and pieces suggested someone was running towards him.. I not only blended.. but, I created a new character.. one that could respond.. it would be even better if others were to assume characters.. whether they were the T-Rex or the Pteranodons swooping down and attacking my hair.. That is the frustrating part of this..
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"Bawkkkkkkkkk Bawwaakkkkk" Scarlet comes running through the trees, arms up above her head sheilding herself from the swooping Pteranodons. Her white guaze dress snags on a stump and tears at the hemline.
Glancing all around she turns and runs directly toward a figure in the distance. The Pteranodon drops even lower and nips a bit of her hair, he swooshes upward shuffling a breeze and a clasp of blond tresses hangs lightly out of his clenched bill. Grabbing at her scalp she steps up her pace and screams a bit.. but, exhaustion soon took over and she collapsed onto the ground.. Looking up she swings her hand to shield her eyes and stares directly into the eyes of.....
Konu: Let's get this story ended and start fresh by your guidelines.
Foxy Lady: That may be a good idea. But I would suggest that when we start a new story we decide ahead of time if it's to be silly or serious and the starter gets to decide. Then everyone must follow that.
Story tags can be so much fun but peeps have to work together and SR is right that additions must "blend in" to others imput to the story.
ScarletRose: Well, I'd like to leave your post because you actually raise an issue I wanted to raise anyway. If you look where I had reposted the entire story, from there is wasn't long before it took a silly turn. I even had to delete one post because I was trying to keep the story on the serious level.
On the one hand I want to allow for some "fun" and sillyness but I also realize it will distract from the hard work of others and the story may fizzle. On the other hand, I don't know when to delete an addition or even if I should. I don't want to be that critical. Obviously some people have the writing gift and others do not (I don't consider myself necessairly gifted in that area.) I tried to give some guidance from the above guidelines but unless serious writers participate, it may be difficult to get a good story going.
BTW, so it's clear (this is to everyone reading this) I am not referring to the "mouse" addition. That was clearly a joke. :)
If anyone has a good suggestion, I'm all ears. I'll repost the "story so far" after some discussion has taken place. ;)
Groucho: I was adding to the story.. I actually sat and focused on what I wrote.. I just didn't write a quick line to get a laugh.. and then have the next several posters make light of it.. If they want to contribute I think they should at least make a better attempt at it.. Geez.. if they would just read what had been written I wrote something that actually blended in with everyone's input..
ScarletRose: Well that's the nature of the storyboard problem isn't it. Look at the previous lines of the story. It started out seriously and then it took a turn for the silly. We have apes, chuckie cheeze, and t-rex running around. What am I supposed to do? Were you adding to that story or starting a new one? Now I'm really confused. How am I supposed to deal with what people write? You tell me.
Foxy Lady: But that tricky little mouse isn't about to be fooled by the mouse traps. He's seen them before and knows how to avoid them. Meanwhile, the mouse is occupied staring back into the eyes of the stranger.
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