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8. март 2008, 01:02:50
The Col 
Относно: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
I may be moving to a home located on a street with many areas for a dog to enjoy.I previosly was against adopting a dog due to already having two cats,they have sqautters rights,and I didn't want to have a dog couped up in an apt.I need some advice in regards to what dog breeds tend to get along well with cats,it will be a puppy,and it must be a smaller breed.I refuse to have the dog diminish my girls enjoyment of their home,hopefully I can find a breed that will co-exist and compliment our family.

8. март 2008, 01:51:00
anastasia 
Относно: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
Jim Dandy:  I would personally google that one.(I'm a google girl,lol) Or if you have a specific breed in mind,research that one.My Mom's Peakinease LOVED cats.When I brought my kitten over to introduce them,the tried to mother hen him.I would think you would want to stay away from breeds like terriors as the cats might bring out their prey drive easily.Also talk to the people at the shelter..thats what they are there for :)

8. март 2008, 01:59:30
The Col 
Относно: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
anastasia: I did a little googling,my first choice would be a beagle,but the howling might drive my even more nuts than I already am
Both my girls have claws,so that is a worry,but if it's a puppy they hopefully won't be intimidated

8. март 2008, 02:20:30
srnity 
Относно: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
Jim Dandy: One more thought, if I may - being that the cats were there first should help BIG time. Even my "Duck-Killer" (and everything else) dog was tolerant of a rabbit that I had at the time who was cage-free whenever I was home, they weren't best-buds by far, but I think he knew who was there first

8. март 2008, 02:15:21
srnity 
Относно: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
Jim Dandy: I SO agree with Anastasia, that's one you definately need to research My shelter-dog LOVES animals, all animals, and people, all people (but she eats bees-lol). But she's also no puppy & was truly desperate for a "home". The shelter that she was at let me take her around on a couple occasions to "meet and greet" because I had an elderly uncaged ferret at home and wanted to make sure she'd be nice to him, and she was wonderful, he died a very content old ferret. But I also had a shelter-dog for many, many years who hunted anything & everything he could. I'd stay clear of any breed of hunting/tracking/or incredibly dominant dogs. From my experience, some small dogs are nastier than the HUGE ones (makes up for their lack of size?) Also, I really hope that your cats still have their claws, yes? That is a cat's defense, especially when it comes to a dog's teeth - I think that's what makes a dog think twice & what chance does a cat have without them with an angry dog in front of them, no matter what size? Just my opinion

8. март 2008, 04:32:59
anastasia 
Относно: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge

srnity: yes on everything you said,lol!!! The one thing tho that I REALLY need to point out is the dominance thing that you mentioned,and the fact that Jim says he will be getting a puppy.....the most dominate dog as a pup may well grow up to be a bit more submissive then you would think (that is the case with my Damien) and a pup that was EXTREMELY submissive (that would be my Niki) might well grow up to surprise the crap out of you and BECOME dominate!! D was dominate as a pup,pretty laid back now..and Niki,well I picked her BECAUSE she was very submissive to Damien,which was wonderful because at that time he was still pretty dominate...as she gets older she is becoming extremely dominate..so much in fact that she is challanging D for the dom statues between the 2 of them


 Maybe,Jim would consider an older or 1 or 2 years old that maybe had come from a cat family?? not all dogs are strays,alot do have a history.


8. март 2008, 13:05:49
The Col 
Относно: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
anastasia: My numero uno priority is that they all get along,age is only a factor in regards to my thinking it help both dog and cats grow into eachother(so to speak)I will definitely be adopting from a shelter,I would be hypocritical otherwise,but it has to be the right match,I refuse to return it once it's brought into my home.

srnity:Yes,smaller males sometimes seem to have a chip on their shoulders regarding size,but we compensate with big cars,it's a Feudian thing I think

8. март 2008, 15:59:05
anastasia 
Относно: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
Jim Dandy: possibly you could bring your 2 kitties to the shelter to meet the dog??

8. март 2008, 16:32:57
The Col 
Относно: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
anastasia: Jenn would be fine,but Molly literally goes
catatonic outside my place.I think a natural environment is the best scenario.I may submit a few breeds to my guy at the humane society,if they pop up he could contact me

8. март 2008, 16:45:13
srnity 
Относно: Re: Yes,smaller males sometimes seem to have a chip on their shoulders regarding size,but we compensate with big cars
Jim Dandy: You know where I live there are many, many women with BIG cars (trucks really) & they say it compensates for their aggressive nature Oh, and beagles are gorgeous, my neighbor has one, I LOVE her bark (howl), it's like she's singing She doesn't care for any other dogs tho (we've got lots living here), she's more a loner. She's not crazy about people either, but maybe it's just a trust issue (she's rescued), and she lets me pet her, she growls softly when I do (lol) but she lets me I think she just likes the attention she gets from the couple that has her the best - very sweet dog, lots of emotion in her

8. март 2008, 16:35:40
srnity 
Относно: Re: ..as she gets older she is becoming extremely dominate..so much in fact that she is challanging D for the dom statues between the 2 of them
anastasia: That must be a fun argument to watch Are spayed females generally more dominant than males in a group canine situation? Wow does mine get snippy with certain male dogs at parks, etc. if they don't give her her "space" sometimes But she's not like that with cats and others, maybe she knows of their ability to put their claws up?

8. март 2008, 16:40:30
The Col 
Относно: Re: ..as she gets older she is becoming extremely dominate..so much in fact that she is challanging D for the dom statues between the 2 of them
srnity: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?

8. март 2008, 16:53:08
srnity 
Относно: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Jim Dandy: Wow, I'm definately out on a limb on that one While I'm thinking of it, I know someone who has a male "Pug" and cats too and they get along just peachy ( I think the cats were there first, maybe that's the trick to harmony, and the pug is a total sweetheart, I don't think he's got a mean bone in his body)

8. март 2008, 17:00:03
The Col 
Относно: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
srnity: I work with someone who is a pug nut,she has 3.I think it's a breed you either love or.......I frankly an not fond of the constant snout licking of both bull dogs and pugs,almost like they have a never ending cold LOL

8. март 2008, 17:20:50
srnity 
Относно: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Jim Dandy: Yeahhhhh, that'd get to me too There's a limit to "dog drool"

9. март 2008, 13:35:55
Ewe 
Относно: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Jim Dandy: Hi, I had two females cats, both were rescues which I had had for years. I decided to have a dog rescue exactly the same as youre thinking of doing now, & had the exact same concerns & worries you have too as my cats were both so happy.

Well a dog came along, hes was a rough collie (like lassie only black & white) I brought him home on trial for a week to see if he would get on with my cats. I thought if it doesnt work I just simply cant have him as I didnt want to upset my cats who had been through alot previously. I desperately hoped all would be well though. Anyway, the first day or so there was alot of hissing and bushy tails from my cats & he was scared of them! He was such a big laid back dog, had been badly neglected & was in a very bad state...it took a few months  to get him  back in shape. He had previously lived with a cat aswell.

Thankfully they all eventually got on a treat & it was a happy family. My one cat used to snuggle up next to him!

I think the main points that really helped us, that have been mentioned in previous posts, were:
1 He was older & very laid back not boisterous in the house
2 He had lived with a cat before
3 The cats were there first

Hope this helps a little :o)

9. март 2008, 16:40:38
anastasia 
Относно: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?

Ewe: I think the "being older" would help,don't you?? Puppies are SOOOO rambuntious while growing up that even not meaning to,they may go after a cat in a way that a cat is unsure of.Again..alot goes back to pray drive,pups just want to chase things that move,ans espeacially when they hit the "teenage years"


9. март 2008, 22:03:00
The Col 
Относно: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Ewe: Very helpful,as anastasia mentioned in a prior post,puppies can be unpredictable long term.I should be looking for a dog who has a past living with cats,reassurance too.I also think it wise to give the girls about 3 months in the new place to themselves.

9. март 2008, 01:14:57
anastasia 
Относно: Re: ..as she gets older she is becoming extremely dominate..so much in fact that she is challanging D for the dom statues between the 2 of them

srnity:  I have never owned a female dog in my adult life,spayed or otherwise,lol. I DO know tho that just because a dog shows certain things as a pup,does not mean they develope into adulthood with the same traites.The very first time Niki was introduced to Damien,she licked his mouth first thing...I thought..OH GOODIE!!!! she IS a submissive type!! well,let me tell you that Lil Miss Niki is NOT that way anymore,lol!! She is in her "teenage years" right now (she is 8 months old) and I think just like any teen,they want to test the limits with the family....I know she is testing them with me right now..she is going through her I THINK I hear my Mom calling for me but I will run the other way and keep playing anyways stage,lol.Oh curse the day that Damien hit that phase!! They both bring me such great joy tho!!


 Niki also does this new thing,she bounces everywhere that she goes...like tigger,lol!! She doesn't walk,not run,not even that famous GSD trot..she bounces!! TO CUTE!!!


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