Czuch: "That is exactly what I dislike about liberals and the socialist left in the US! That is exactly what they stand for, and what they think they want and i dont think most of them understand the consequences of what they are asking for, really."

I agree with you. As a matter of fact, I was an idealist of this class who thought socialism in some form was the best answer. What changed my mind was seeing the End Game of this political process. More specifically, that at the highest levels, it is a game of deceit & treachery, both against our Constitution and against true humanitarianism.

"That is exactly why I vote conservative, the lessor of two evils"

I think you are making the same mistake I was making, from the opposite end, so to speak. The Neo-Cons & the Republican party fully support this Fabian socialist model of one world collectivism in their policies & laws, only they couch it in different terms for mass consumption. The only true conservative in the new Republican party, to my knowledge, is Ron Paul. The rest of them....Newt Gingrich, George Bush, Billy Crystal, Dick Cheney, and on & on....are members of the CFR and are working for world government.