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9. март 2011, 19:29:32

Übergeek 바둑이

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Относно: Guantanamo

I think there are probably some reasons why Guantanamo is not closed yet:

1. Several countries don't want to repatriate the prisoners sitting there. Many of those prisoners have nowhere to go. Nobody wants them in their country.

2. Fear of reincidence is a factor too. There is guarantee that if any of these men end up free again they won't go back to doing what they did before being captured. Now they have even more reason to hate the USA,s ince many of them were imprisoned for years without formal trials or charges.

3. Prisoners disclosing what happened in Guantanamo is a factor too. What we know of interrogations there is only the tip of the iceberg. It is possible that these men are theatening to publicize what happened to them in Guantanamo. They might not be willing to buy their freedom with silence.

I think Obama was unrealistic in thinking he could close Guantanamo without giving thought to what they would do with those prisoners or how they would be legally processed. Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo. The only way Guantanmo will close is if the lease runs out and the Cubans ask for their land back. Then the Gulag will have to move elsewhere.

9. март 2011, 20:27:44

rod03801

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Относно: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.

Artful Dodger: Exactly. "Unrealistic" is an understatement. He is a complete amateur. I can't believe so many people voted for someone so Unqualified. It seems as though he is just stumbling through everything.

9. март 2011, 20:32:08

Mort

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Относно: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.

Променен от Mort (9. март 2011, 20:32:25)

rod03801: They voted for him as people had gotten tired of the somewhat 'experienced' George Bush.

... I think McCain being so old and Palin being so .. ... .. utterly unsuitable didn't do the Republican camp any good.

9. март 2011, 20:36:55

rod03801

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Относно: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.

(V): And? So? Doesn't change the fact that he is inept and just making a mess of things.

9. март 2011, 20:39:14

rod03801

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Относно: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.

But don't get me wrong. Bush was a bumbling fool too.

9. март 2011, 20:43:14

Mort

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Относно: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.

rod03801: A mess?? G bay was Bush's mess. Bush made it, Obama tried to clean it up. He can't due to the problem being bigger than I gather he would of known of until he was President.

... I don't think those running for President get told much details of TOP SECRET files before they get into power.

.. Do they?

9. март 2011, 20:51:28

rod03801

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Относно: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.

(V): Sorry, I honestly don't have much sympathy (if any) for the people that are there.

9. март 2011, 20:56:59

Mort

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Относно: Re: Sorry, I honestly don't have much sympathy (if any) for the people that are there.

rod03801: ... And what about those killed by those who use the abuse and other crap that has happened there as part of their recruitment drive for more to join the terrorist cause?

10. март 2011, 03:12:00

rod03801

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Относно: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.

Tuesday: His flip flopping on the subject (obama) just shows how he doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

10. март 2011, 03:20:35

rod03801

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Относно: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.

Tuesday: Oh come on. According to Super Obama, it would be completely closed by now. Of course he is flip flopping. He is incompetent, face it.

10. март 2011, 10:41:37

Mort

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Относно: Re: And certainly Iran has no fear. They routinely mock Obama.

Artful Dodger: I think you'll find they've been mocking the USA since the end of Persia and the beginning of Iran. I think they would have been especially mocking the USA over the supply of chemical weapons material to Saddam... that he used in the Iran/Iraq war.