Charles Martel: Also an inside job, under the Clinton administration. Practice run for 9/11, and more importantly at the time, a way to put militia movements in a bad light.

The Usurper: well i agree on the militia part.. especially the Ruby Ridge incident

Charles Martel: Yes, Ruby Ridge is another major incident in the rise of the American police state. Waco is another.

My difference with liberals is this: they refuse to recognize the mal-intent of their Democratic leaders, while often recognizing it in Republican leaders. And my difference with conservatives is the same: they see the evil of Clinton, but not Bush, etc.

The Usurper: And my difference with conservatives is the same: they see the evil of Clinton, but not Bush, etc.


Problem with this statement, is it isnt accurate... the part about liberals and Bush is true, all liberals could talk about is how evil Bush was, but never anything on a substantive basis.....

But as far as conservatives and Clinton, aside from the part where he lied about an affair with an intern, conservatives simply disagreed with his policies and ideas, it was never about "he is evil and bad blah blah blah..."

Same for Bam.... we simply disagree with his and other liberals "collective" agenda, he is not stupid or evil, he is just misguided and wrong.