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30. 一月 2010, 20:25:21
alilsassy 
题目: Re: Pawns joining Fellowships
Mousetrap:& Fencer: I've noticed many members in several private fellowships that are listed as pawns. If a member returns to a status of pawn, should they not be removed from the fellowship? Do they still have the same access to read the private boards and advantages as a paid member in those fellowships?

30. 一月 2010, 20:27:54
Fencer 
题目: Re: Pawns joining Fellowships
alilsassy: Members with expired membership are not kicked out because many of them usually renew it later and they like to restore their fellowship list automatically instead of rejoining them one by one. And as long as they are pawns, they cannot use any fellowship functions, including discussion boards.
Or at least that's how I think it should be working.

30. 一月 2010, 20:29:06
Mousetrap 
题目: Re: Pawns joining Fellowships
Fencer: So a pawn can post inside a fellowship on a fellowship discussion board? I ask because in FoxyLady,s caffee house it says (mode)pawns must be approved somewhere at the top. And I would like to be able to invite some pawns if it is possible.

30. 一月 2010, 20:31:35
Fencer 
题目: Re: Pawns joining Fellowships
Mousetrap: The approve mode is just one of access modes applied to all discussion boards, public or private. Actually it is kind of useless in fellowships but, for some reason, I forgot to disable it at all. It does not make any harm, anyway.

30. 一月 2010, 20:50:59
Mousetrap 
题目: Re: Approved mode
Fencer: Ah that explains it! Thank you very much!

31. 一月 2010, 01:13:34
alilsassy 
题目: Re: Pawns joining Fellowships
Fencer: Thanks Fencer...... I was just curious

1. 二月 2010, 07:29:30
Bernice 
slow as hell and many white pages

1. 二月 2010, 07:36:13
pedestrian 
题目: Re:
Bernice:

Slow here too....
Spent all morning setting up my start position for a game of screen chess, took up to a couple of minutes to place each piece...

3. 二月 2010, 23:06:51
Bernice 
we all know that you can't leave a fellowship if you are in any tournaments, until such time as you finish the tournament.
Now, would it be possible to prevent BB's from throwing someone out when they are still playing in tournaments for said fellowship?
seems a bit "one sided" at the moment.

4. 二月 2010, 02:54:43
Mousetrap 
题目: Angl**t**
Mousetrap修改(4. 二月 2010, 02:55:37)
When is something going to be done about this I***t signing up for games then resigning after the first move Or do we have to wait untill her/his Rook membership runs out and hope that noone buys him/her one

4. 二月 2010, 05:44:08
Snoopy 
题目: Re: Angl**t**
Mousetrap: i think they trying to get to the top of this pointless board by hook or by crook http://brainking.com/en/Statistics?p=1


they dont care what they do
many ppl are fed up with her esp when ppl also know she has at least 3 other accounts

4. 二月 2010, 07:06:52
alilsassy 
题目: Re: seems a bit "one sided" at the moment....
Bernice: I've been wanting to know the same thing.
    I was recently booted from 4 fellowships belonging to what I believe to be nic's of a certain member. After a switch of BB's & LB's  from one to another I hadn't even posted on the boards in a couple of them, and one of the f/s was a flaming fellowship that I only made one post, not even considered by most as flaming. Needless to say, I am stuck playing tournament games in fellowships that I was booted from with no justifiable cause.  When I requested to know why I was booted I was told "it was because I post in HRC". I was already an active member of HRC when I was invited to these other fellowships. Sounds almost a lil' prejudice against members being in a certain f/s.  I'm so glad that not all BB's think that same way & welcome me to their fellowships.
   I think it would be nice if Fencer could implement some new guidelines to the effect of removing a person from a fellowship, as well as, all their games being played for that fellowship.  Maybe not removing the member immediately, but BB giving a proper notice for action, and not accepting them to join new tournaments. Allowing them to finish the tournament games already in play. When the particular member has finished the game then be removed from the fellowship if the BB can remember why they wanted to boot them in the first place.  Just a thought   I think it might help eliminate this petty booting from BB's & LB's.

4. 二月 2010, 14:03:14
Snoopy 
题目: Re: Angl**t**
Mousetrap: i think another part of the reason is what is mention on the FR board to
creators of tournaments have to go thou 128 games to remove her from each section

so most of them leave her in has its easier that way right now

4. 二月 2010, 17:28:40
Papa Zoom 
Thanks for the patience on this question that may have been asked before. Is there a limit to the number of smilies we can have in fellowships?

4. 二月 2010, 17:30:01
Fencer 
题目: Re:
Artful Dodger: I am not sure, I'll have to look at the code first. But even if there is a limit, it would be a very high number.

4. 二月 2010, 21:05:50
Papa Zoom 
题目: Re:
Fencer: Thanks, I have a bunch I want to add and was just curious.

4. 二月 2010, 22:30:59
Bernice 
题目: Re: seems a bit "one sided" at the moment....
alilsassy: doesn't look as tho we are going to get an answer does it

5. 二月 2010, 01:19:35
coan.net 
题目: Re: seems a bit "one sided" at the moment....
Bernice: Well I can tell you that Fencer has always felt that a fellowship, who is allowed in a fellowship, and the "rules" of a fellowship belongs to the Big Boss of that fellowship - so if a BB want's someone out of their fellowship, then they have 100% right to do so.

And I agree with that - if a BB does not want someone in a fellowship, then they have the right to kick the person out - no matter if a player got into some fellowship tournaments, discussions, etc... if they want them out, they are out. Reason to kick person out? Does not matter - that is one of the privileges of running a fellowship, which all Brain Rooks & above have the ability to start.

5. 二月 2010, 01:31:35
Bernice 
题目: Re: seems a bit "one sided" at the moment....
coan.net: yes, yes, yes....I know all that, and I dont have a problem, I havent been kicked out....but if someone is good enough to join the tournaments surely they deserve the respect of being in the f/s until the tourney is finished. But going by your post, each player that the person is teamed up with should at least get a draw to make it even.

Now example......if I joined a tournament in the garden board and was banned from there, what is your explanation on that?

5. 二月 2010, 01:38:01
coan.net 
The problem with that is some tournaments can last years - so if a BB wants (for whatever reason) to kick a certain player out, it is there fellowship and should have the right to do that.

Everything with that tournament continues with no issues. Next rounds will start just like they should. So I'm not sure what your question is about each player that is teamed up with should get a draw to make it even - the tournament will continue - no matter what the status is of the fellowship.

I'm also not sure about your example question - other then being listed for fellowship members only, tournaments have nothing else to do with fellowships - so a tournament will continue as normal no matter what the status is of the fellowship.

5. 二月 2010, 01:42:56
El Cid 
题目: Re: seems a bit "one sided" at the moment....
Bernice: Just curious, if someone is banned from a fellowship during a tournament, does (s)he stop being able to play in those games (almost like if a player returns to pawn, when playing on a pond)? I'm asking this, because if a player returns to pawn, although he cannot play in ponds anymore, he still can play in fellowship games and tournaments that have already started..., so the suggestion of not being able to sign in any new tournament, and when the running ones end to be kicked off the fellowship, doesn't seem to logical to me, because you can still play in them so it's not a certain defeat (ok, you are still playing for the good of a fellowship that has kicked you off, but you can just see the game as if it was a personal, and not a fellowship, one)

5. 二月 2010, 01:56:35
Bernice 
题目: Re:
coan.net: I was talking a message board like the gardening board for example.....IS Foxy able to make tournaments? if so can she kick people out and they still play in tournaments?

ElCid Im as confused as you are ROFL...........

5. 二月 2010, 02:06:03
Mousetrap 
题目: Re: Angl**t** and 128 games to remove him/her from
Snoopy: OMG!

5. 二月 2010, 02:15:01
coan.net 
题目: Re:
Bernice: No, message boards can not have tournaments associated with them.

5. 二月 2010, 02:23:44
Roberto Silva 
题目: Re:
Bernice: you also have to take into account that a member could keep signing on for tournaments in order to prevent the BB from removing them, just out of spite.

If a BB wants to remove someone from a fellowship they should be able to, and unless I'm mistaken, tournaments you've signed on for would still be played as usual right?

5. 二月 2010, 03:34:23
nodnarbo 
题目: Re:
coan.net: I'm curious now, however, if a running tournament doesn't prevent a BB from kicking out a player, then why do players have to finish all their tournament games before they are allowed to leave the tournament. If the tournament will continue fine either way, what's the difference?

5. 二月 2010, 04:49:16
Papa Zoom 
题目: Re:
nodnarbo: good question. I see no difference.

5. 二月 2010, 07:10:34
Bernice 
题目: Re:
nodnarbo: EXACTLY......thats what I want an answer to.

thank god someone understands....

5. 二月 2010, 07:19:48
angelstar 
题目: none
well no one has to worry anymore , i am leave this site

Goodbye

5. 二月 2010, 08:29:21
Snoopy 
题目: Re: none
angelstar: no one is asking you to leave
our only wish is that you stop joining all games in every tournament to resign them
it spoils the tournament
if you dont want to play that type of game
its simple DONT join the tournament

5. 二月 2010, 15:20:08
coan.net 
题目: Re:
nodnarbo: I'm assuming you are asking why someone can't leave a fellowship if they are in a tournament.

I agree that it would be fine if a player could leave a fellowship even if they are in tournaments, I'm not sure exactly why that restriction is in there.

At one time I joined every fellowship that asked me to join. I also joined way too many tournaments long ago - and I went though and left a lot of fellowships I did not do much in and was "stuck" in some fellowships longer while tournaments continued. No big deal really - just waiting until those games were over and then left, but I can not think of any good reason why I should be stuck in a fellowship (of course I could just ask the BIG BOSS to kick me out, but some of the fellowships I wanted to leave had an inactive BB, so that would not work.... so I just waited.)

Sorry Bernice if I did not understand your original question.

6. 二月 2010, 17:26:16
motylek1978 
题目: Unrated games
Hello, I am new here (logged in first time) and I would like to ask if there is possiblity to display list of only unrated games? I see in filter options only checkbox for displaying/hiding unrated games but no checkbox for rated games which I do not want to be displayed. Thanks in advance for answers.

7. 二月 2010, 13:37:16
MadMonkey 
题目: Re: Unrated games
motylek1978: Great to see you here, always nice to meet new faces

In short, i have made a note of your request (in case our leader hasn't lol) and will pass it on.

The actual site is being re-written at the moment so no changes will be made to this version , unless it is critical.

7. 二月 2010, 18:07:37
Bwild 
题目: Re: Unrated games
MadMonkey: The actual site is being re-written at the moment so no changes will be made to this version ,.....
right...and maybe we'll hear another update on the new 3.0 version by the next membership drive~!! lol

7. 二月 2010, 19:37:46
motylek1978 
题目: Re: Unrated games
MadMonkey: Ok, thank you for welcoming and info. *6*

11. 二月 2010, 02:11:49
Herlock Sholmes 
题目: Games statistics

it's interesting to look at running games statistics ... out of first 20 games mostly played, there are 15 games that uses dice ... it's 75 percent, if you will, taken by backgammon and its clones plus all the dice poker games and the absolute king Ludo ... remaining 5 are chess (traditional favorite) plus 2 battleboats version and two games created by the users of this site: Frog Finder by coan.net (aka Big Bad Wolf) and Knight Fight by me, Andy. And this situation stays pretty much the same unchanged. Why ? What constitutes the most desirable game to play ... Look at Ludo ... it's a game with a very limited level of needed skills ... so what makes it so exciting ? UNKNOWN ... waiting for the big roll, this is what makes it a great game ... the same basically applies to all backgammon clones and poker games ... now, how about Frog Finder and Battleboats ? Again UNKNOWN ... but this time unknown placement of basic elements that need to be discovered ... Knight Fight has different qualities ... everything is known and what makes it interesting is the fact that this game is a racing-running game in nature, combined with known chess knight problem ... so we are back to Ludo running quality, but not "around the pond", but instead thru carefuly planned jumps across the chess board ... I would appreciate your comments and thoughts.


Andy.


 


11. 二月 2010, 04:16:32
coan.net 
题目: Re: Games statistics
Herlock Sholmes: Another thing that needs to be looked at is the length of the game - that is Ludo is the #1 game... but at the same time, it takes a long time to complete a game..... I don't feel like doing all the math, but would guess taking in how long a game last would still leave Ludo near the top.

then a game like Hyper Backgammon is shorter, so thinking of that might push that game up some more.

Then #26 game Logik is pretty short (what, max of 8 moves each?) - so if game length is considered, that game might move up some.

.... not that I have much of a point, and the basics of what you said is still true - and I do use the running games as a "general" guideline of how popular a game is... but it can easily be manipulated by a team tournament, or popular (prize) tournament creating a lot of games... and if it's a long game it will push it up that list... and if it's a short game, it will push it up the list but quickly come right back down.

Again... no point... just thought I would add.

11. 二月 2010, 06:00:05
Bwild 
题目: Re: Games statistics
coan.net: I thought someone else came up with frog finder???

11. 二月 2010, 09:43:35
Hrqls 
题目: Re: Games statistics
Herlock Sholmes: dice games require less thinking .. therefore its easier to make a quick move in those games and more of those games can be played at once

personally i always try to judge my time before i join a chess or pente type of game because it can take quite some time to make a move .. but i will almost always joing a dice game

(not at the moment though ... busy time coming up so i have to restrain myself a bit :))

11. 二月 2010, 10:16:10
SL-Mark 
题目: Re: Games statistics
Herlock Sholmes: Perhaps this is to do with psyche of the average BK player, all kings I’m sure, but less brain :)

Being beaten in a dice game, well it was simply that the die favoured the other player! i.e. luck.

Beaten in a game of skill, however, then the loser can only critique themselves.

11. 二月 2010, 10:45:17
AbigailII 
题目: Re: Games statistics
Hrqls: dice games require less thinking .. therefore its easier to make a quick move in those games and more of those games can be played at once

If your opponent is online, yes. But I think most of the "duration" of a game, the game doesn't move forward because the player whose move it is isn't online, or hasn't selected the game yet. Many games last weeks or months - I doubt most of that time one of the player is actively studying the position. Even if both players spend 24 hours in total actively contemplating their next move, that's less than 10% total time if the game lasts a month.

11. 二月 2010, 11:59:01
Hrqls 
题目: Re: Games statistics
AbigailII: i mean that i can join more dice games .. because it will take me less time to make my moves ...

suppose i joined 100 dice games and its my turn in all those games .. then it takes me a lot less time to make all my moves before i timeout compared to 100 chess games

so only considering the spare time i have i can easier join 100 dice games than 100 chess games

11. 二月 2010, 15:17:48
MadMonkey 
Am i missing something

You can delete a Fellowship should you wish to (well Big Boss's can), but is there away to delete a Discussion Board from a Fellowship ?

11. 二月 2010, 15:19:54
Snoopy 
题目: Re:
MadMonkey: not that i know off you can always put the board to something that is very hard to click on which i did

11. 二月 2010, 17:22:25
coan.net 
题目: Re:
MadMonkey: I haven't done it (or tested it) - but believe the BIG BOSS can change the posting "Mode" or privledge level of someone to post on the board and make it almost impossible for anyone to post on that board.

Change the board name to "." so it's hard to see also.

... of course that is also one of the big things Fencer has talked about changing for the new 3.0 Brainking it sounds like...

11. 二月 2010, 17:28:46
MadMonkey 
题目: Re:
Snoopy & coan.net : Thanks, thought i was going mad

I will do something like that, but i think being able to delete a Board would be better

11. 二月 2010, 17:42:19
coan.net 
题目: Re: Games statistics
Bwild: No, I cam up with with Frog Finder - can find some of the details & "history" of the game here: http://www.coan.net/sweeper.html

12. 二月 2010, 00:55:34
Bernice 
I would have thought that the powers that be (we all know how clever they are) would have caught onto this one....
nicmulti_68 (Nic)

12. 二月 2010, 02:19:04
wetware 
题目: Re: Games statistics
SL-Mark
"Being beaten in a dice game, well it was simply that the die favoured the other player! i.e. luck."
"Beaten in a game of skill, however, then the loser can only critique themselves."

Those observations are a good start.

Being beaten in a dice game, one can all too easily conclude that the loss was purely a matter of bad luck, and that there was nothing in one's own play that deserved criticism.
Not all dice games are created equal.
Have you ever noticed that the frequency of claims of "unfair dice" tends to be inversely proportional to players' strength?

"Dice games require less thinking?"
Who would say such a thing?  On the contrary (at least in some dice games), in addition to strategic considerations, one must also calculate various probabilities.

12. 二月 2010, 07:52:37
Hrqls 
题目: Re: Games statistics
wetware: "Dice games require less thinking?"

you are right for some dice games. most dice games have limited move options though, far less options than chess .. its also tougher to think ahead and build a plan with dice games .. at least thats beyond my capabilities .. i can 'feel' a few moves ahead with a probability that it might happen with dice games, but with a chess type (or pente or espionage) i can plan a bit more ahead which takes time

so dice games dont require less thinking .. but they certainly require less time per move (for me)

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