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Hrqls: Clo(w)ning backgammon is a special case. When it was first introduced, the rule for win was different. I don't quite recall how it went, but it took into account the number of stones. Under that rule starting 15, 21-point games made sense, and I entered 2 of those. Shortly after, the rules were changed to the present form, unfortunately also for tournaments that were already started. Some of those tournaments will outlive me. So indeed, I see no problem with the system...
I posted the following on the discussion board of Play Cloning Gammon for a prize. in January 2010: Happy 3rd birthday!! Please engrave on my tomb: STILL playing Cloning Gammon for a prize.
It's soon the 8th birthday. We are still in round 1. No problem at all.
rabbitoid: lol i am in that tournament as well .. although i cant make it to the next round anymore as i end as 2md in my section
the matches which havent finished yet are all between active players ... so hopefully it will proceed to the next round next year ? .. hmm maybe in this case (cloning gammon) inactive players would lose sooner due to timeout as thats much faster than finishing the game itself :)
Hrqls: I'm in too! :) I resigned all my games, after getting bored with the tournament... eheheheheh. 0 points, last place in my section! :)
Well, Rabbitoid... rod and beaupol will problably be in second round, so... you'll have more 8 years (minimum) to wait. If you get a third round, with one of them, more 8 years, so you will finish the tournament in 2031.
How old are you, Rabbitoid? LOL
By the way, I say this with no problem, as I really like rod and Beaupol, they are good friends, and I respect them. But they are slow players (and they know it), so... :)
Gabriel Almeida:sigh, I am a slow player but I don't purposely slow down tournaments. I play within time limits, and if you look at my profile, I have used less than 2 vacation days this year. You won't find me using vacation days to extend a tournament.
I play games in order of remaining time, so if a tournament has a long time limit, it will take longer to play. But I have a life outside of BK, and a part-time job now as well as a family.
I am actually getting to the point where it is not worth playing here anymore, more negative than positive. And this sort of post is almost the last straw.......
mal4inara: Please don't take offense. Gabriel Almeida is a good guy, and I am sure he really didn't mean to offend you.
I don't take offense by the comments. My response would really be the same as yours. I play in order of time out. If a tourney has crazy long time constraints, then they do take longer with me. As with you, if anyone looks at my profile, they would see I've BARELY touched MY vacation time too.
I've stopped joining new tournies, (unless they realllllly interest me), in an effort to get my number of games down enough to the point that I can hopefully make a move in every game, every day.
Like you, it is NOT my plan to hold things up, but I have seemingly done so. I don't join tournies with long time constraints anymore. I am also more than happy to concentrate on the older tournies, but it isn't always possible.
My main point is that I hope you won't be offended. There may be SOME people who purposefully hold things up, but I know it's not me, and I'm sure it's not you either.
I don't want to be in long, never ending tournies either. That's why I only join ones with VERY short time constraints, to FORCE me to keep up. As my # of games get down further, it will be less of an issue anyway.
mal4inara: I hear you. I've been participating in this same debate for years now. Unfortunately, some people won't accept the reality of a turn based game site, and will attack people who don't play the way they would like. It's just the reality of it. It is really better to just let it pass, because some won't accept that its on them TOO for joining games that don't meet the ideal time constraints. And I don't mean anyone who is participating in THIS current, civil, conversation.
rod03801:thank you both, Rod and jo, for your comprehenion. In fact, i dont want to offend. And honestly the discussion about slow or fast playing, compared with the possibility of someone that is playing fairly and nice as you both are, is nothing.