Artful Dodger:

Bernice:   There's another  skit where they lampooned the news and announced the "premature" awarding of the Heisman Trophy to a high schooler, the Miss America Pagent winner to a 5th grader.  lol

One Obama offical said that the award is an acknowledgement of Obama's likely accomplishments.   In other words, Obama has done nothing to deserve this award, but it's likely he will deserve it in the future.

They must think the average person is stupid.  about 85% of those polled say Obama did nothing to deserve such an award.  Worse is that he was only in office 12 days when he was nominated.  Idiots.

Artful Dodger: the people are of the same opinion over here....completely unwarranted, and as you said they must think people are stupid.

Artful Dodger:  I don't mind him getting  the award but it would have been nice to see that he actually did something for it.  It's just another example of how meaningless this President is.  Things are not good here and all he seems to do is blame Bush.  I wonder how long he'll play that "I inherited a mess" card?

Artful Dodger:Let me assure you the "I inherited a mess" card will go on for years....we had that happen over here...

thankfully australia seems to be on the up and up.

they seem to think we are nearly thru and done with the recession or whatever they want to call it.

Artful Dodger: shorter then the the pro Bush's blamed Clinton I guess, depends on how long the far righters keep moaning that there isn't a Republican President.

McCain.. says.. "....As Americans we're proud when our President receives a reward..."

(V):McCain is just making a political statement.  If he really believes that we ought to celebrate when an undeserved award is given, he's an idiot.  SNL got it right.

Artful Dodger: SNL.. yes, they remind me of "Spitting Image" ... just as Glen Beck reminds me of a certain Kenny Everett character... a certain American general who wants to bomb everything that's not 'apple pie'....

And if we are to move on from Bush... why is Beck quoting stuff Obama said 8+ years back, saying Obama wants to convert America to a Marxist state and kill 20% of Americans in the process??

tell me..... are some Republicans so thick as to take this guy seriously?

........... as to cell phones... why can't it be just a universal ban, at least on handheld as a start? I think your lawyers are promoting this rift in laws being set by the government that need to be.

(V): BTW... any update for us on this side of the pond about those police blokes who murdered some poor innocent guy for no reason?????

Czuch: Nope, that case is still being investigated.

And if you don't read anything with "V" at the begining, then you'll skip all the poor replies to my posts, as well as some excellent ones by non-republicans who've done some research rather than knee jerk reactions and c&pasting far right rhetoric

Artful Dodger:  The SNL skit was funny.  Maybe it was a year premature, but he won the award; so, GET OVER IT.

Ferris Bueller:  Not maybe it was premature, it WAS premature.  What could he possibly have done his first 12 days in office to even merit a nomination?

A huge majority of people share my position on this matter.  It's a farce.  It makes about as much sense as giving Hitler a Humanitarian of the Year award.   An award is only meaningful if it's actually deserved.

Artful Dodger:

>  One Obama offical said that the award is an acknowledgement of Obama's
likely accomplishments.
>  In other words, Obama has done nothing to
deserve this award, but it's likely he will deserve it in the future.

I think we have to remember that President Obama did not ask for the award and he himself said that he had done nothing to deserve it.  If we are going to put blame, we should do it on the people who nominated him, and the committee that awarded it.  Those people did a diservice to the president and put him in a position in which people blame him for doing nothing.  Those that support the president are trying to excuse or justify the prize but in reality all that the Nobel committee did is make things harder for the president.  Now everyone expects him to do something to deserve the prize, and considering what he is facing it is not likely that things will go on his favor.  He faces opposition both at home and abroad.  It is unlikely that the Republican opposition will accept major reductions in the nuclear arsenal.  Israel will continue building settlements and oppressing Palestinians.  Hamaz and Hezbollah will continue to carry out attacks against Israel.  Afghanistan will continue being a nightmare zone run by extremists.  Iraq will continue to be torn by sectarian violence and hatred of the US.  Iran and North Korea are not going to give up their nuclear ambitions.  It will go on and on because those bent on doing harm enjoy war and killing.  The president is only one man against an unreasonable world.  He should never have had to inherit Iraq, yet he did.  It is why Republicans were quite willing to lose the election, because they knew that whoever was elected would have to deal with all the crap.  Now the Nobel committee wants Obama to fix it all and gives him the prize, not hoping that he will suceed, but hoping to put more pressure on him.

Übergeek 바둑이:   I'm not blaming Obama.  I'm just saying that the award is bogus.  Anyone celebrating his winning are not thinking clearly.   Many, like me, are simply pointing out that for an award to hold true meaning, it ought to be truly deserved and based on actual merit. 

Artful Dodger: Wow.... 336 new messages, I have been slacking lately.

Sorry if I dont read them all, and if I post something that has been already talked about.

I think that the Obama award was more the same as a special interest group paying off a politician for votes.... it was a group interested in peace trying to put Obama on the hot seat and get him to feel the need to become worthy of the award he received.

Ferris Bueller: Speaking of SNL... I found it interesting the distinction between the news media coverage when Bush got satirized on SNL and when Obama gets the same.


I saw an NBC news coverage after Obama was satirized that felt the need to explain how inaccurate most of it was, and go into detail about what they felt was characterized...

Well, most of what SNL does is not a completely accurate portrayal, including when it was about Bush... but I NEVER saw any news do a story about how inaccurate they were about Bush, but they just couldnt help themselves trying to explain to the "stupid public" that what they heard on SNL was not all facts..... go figure????

Czuch:   I noticed your absense.  You haven't missed much.  Don't read anything with a "V:" at the beginning.     Most of my posts are their usual par excellence.   So if you've read mine, you're caught up.  lol

BTW, I did a search on MSNBC regarding the Nobel PP and couldn't find anything except positive stories of support.  The net is crawling with negative stories on how stupid this is (giving the award to an undeserving recipient).   Even some prominent people are saying how bogus it is. 

Oh yeah, Fox covered both sides of the argument.  MSNBC only the supportive side for Obama, NBC pretty much the same, and CNN did a pretty good job of a balance.

And did you see where the White House has basically declared war on FOX?   That will so backfire on them.  What a bunch of dolts.  I can't wait to see Fox's ratings go up on this one.  Gotta give the WH credit:  They probably just booted Fox's viewership by the thousands.  Nice strategy.