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Artful Dodger: i actually think the whole police operation from the very top down was really badly organised there is more and more protesters comming forward each day with claims of over reaction from the police and if i remember correctly that guy went to go his normal way home and found it blocked by police so had to go a different way which led to his death
Snoopy: it appears he was hit on the leg with a baton and then was pushed by the same officer....Ian Tomlinson tried to talk to police and then got up and walked away only to collapse further down the street where he subsequently died.
Bernice: and there is a report somewhere which i look out tomorrow that an ITV camera crew tried to give him first aid but where moved on by police anyway got to get some sleep lots to do tomorrow