Hear! Hear, Satan! Amazing, here on the Pente board I have found someone who has missed the whole discussion about the smaller board and the move restriction that we've been having about Keryo Pente, but he comes to the same conclusion about it talking about Pente as quite a few others and I have! Satan, back about a month or two ago a discussion got started on the merits of Keryo Pente being played on the 13 X 13 board in the Tournament Discussion board. The webmaster(Fencer) then created that game on this site. It originally had no move restriction. It now does. Anyways, if you'd like to see just what a nitwit Dmitri is, you can find the posts and various other people's replies starting there(you might have to go back a page or two now) and then move to the Small Keryo Pente discussion board to find the rest of them. I've had a running thing going with him that you'll find through out it. He seems to think his postings are eloquent to no end, but they're not. Aside from his stated objection to allowing it, he never really addresses anybody's liking for the Original Pente (Hey, I like that name for it!) except in some grandiose vision of it being detrimental to their developement as Pente players. I have since dubbed him "The Keeper of All That's Pure and Standard About Pente as Played on a 19 X 19 Board". When I point out things like this he ignores them and then tells me that I haven't said anything. So I have given into attacking him or atleast just pointing out the errors in his ways. I've recently slowed this down as it isn't doing much for me. So it's with great pleasure that recent posts on the Small Keryo Pente board and here by other players have been along the lines of how I argue and feel about the game. Especially good players like you who he might listen to. I liked the way you pointed out how some games between the two of you went.
I happen to like Keryo Pente more than Pente. I've only played Keryo Pente on a 13 X 13 board without the move restriction. Keryo Pente is a newer version of Pente than Pente with the move restriction(Pro Pente). Maybe when it's played on 19 X 19 board the first player still has an advantage, I don't know. I like the 13 X 13 version without the move restriction. Regardless of how big the first to move player's advantage is. As Dmitri might tell you or you'll read in the postings, I've even argued for a smaller board to see how a game would play(10 X 10 or 9 X 9). Anyway, these guys have always played Keryo Pente on the 19 X 19 with the move restriction. Then they have it within themselves to dictate to us people that like playing on the 13 X 13 game that we have to have the move restriction. A version they don't play and are against! Now those of us that like it can't play it here. Back to ol' It's Your Turn, I suppose.
You stated to me at IYT that you like to get into long-winded discussions and/or arguements or something of the nature. The problem is, they are just that, arguments, instead of debates. Dmitri King has little tolerance for arguments as opposed to debates. Although I have a greater tolerance for arguments, I too have my breaking point. I made the mistake ONE time of being sucked into arguing with you and it won't happen again.
We WILL listen to people like Pioneer54, Thad, and Satan (to a smaller extent because he also gets into arguing) who give VALID reasons as to why the game is more 'fun' without the restriction. We may not agree with them, but their reasons ARE worth listening to because they are engaging in a reasonable and logical debate instead of arguing.
If you feel like you are not being listened to, it is because it looks like you are arguing with us instead of debating. For example, your previous reference to his parents and now calling him a nitwit or the keeper of all that's pure will simply not help your case.
If you want a good example of how to engage in a logical debate with your view point, refer to Thad's posts. He always attempts to specifically address each individual point in detail.
Also, I would refer you to my last post to try to find something similar to the situation that exists in Pente at IYT so that this discussion can be shut down once and for all.
Walter, you are acting like a pathetic mindless fool. It is sad that you cannot say anything intelligent of your own, but rather just applaud Satan's mindless post.
You have some gall to say that I do not address people's posts. READ MY POSTS!!!!! That is all I do! Take a look at my resposnes to Thad! I copied and quoted (with astericks for utmost clarity) his
All you can do is sling insults and talk about my mother.
You have NEVER tried to address any of the points listed, you just make grand generic statements.
And no, I DO NOT KNOW WHY I WAS SINGLED OUT! THAT IS WHY I ASKED!!!!!!! What is WRONG with you!???
Why don't you spend less time with your idiotic posts and more time making less pathetic moves in your pente games? You are a joke!!! for all your talk, your challenge is worthless and your moves are pathetic. You are pathetic. You cannnot make a single point of argument. But you have succeeded in really getting under my skin, so congratulations!
"Anyways, if you'd like to see just what a nitwit Dmitri is, you can find the posts and various other people's replies starting there(you might have to go back a page or two now) and then move to the Small Keryo Pente discussion board to find the rest of them. I've had a running thing going with him that you'll find through out it. He seems to think his postings are eloquent to no end, but they're not. Aside from his stated objection to allowing it, he never really addresses anybody's liking for the Original Pente (Hey, I like that name for it!) except in some grandiose vision of it being detrimental to their developement as Pente players. I have since dubbed him "The Keeper of All That's Pure and Standard About Pente as Played on a 19 X 19 Board". When I point out things like this he ignores them and then tells me that I haven't said anything. So I have given into attacking him or atleast just pointing out the errors in his ways"
HA HA HA HA HA! You are very funny! You think you have pointed out errors in my ways? You have to be joking! Ask ANY debate coach in this country who has presented his case more clearly, thoroughly, and convincingly, and I think we all know who the answer will be. Your claim that I do not address what people say is ABSURD. Then you tell people to go check my posts to go see what a nitwit I am? HA! You are delusional! Anyone who checks my posts will see that I have adressed EVERY point made my my opponents MULTIPLE times!
The bad news for you is that calling me a nitwit and saying I have not addressed the issues does NOT make it so, especially since any intelligent person can see that your statements are way off the mark.