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20. srpna 2007, 07:39:06
tippyc 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
Tigger & everyone else: to be a good dice poker player, it seems that you need to know what to do with the rolls you get, that you know what to do with the bad rolls and wait for the good ones to come. Backgammon seems to rely more on what the roll is, but if you dont know how best to use the two dice values you will still be a lousy player.

on a side note: people tend to forget that the probability of an event occurring is not reliant on the previous event. that means that just because someone got (in backgammon) double 6's on their last roll doesn't mean that they have any less of a chance to get double 6's next time. the probability of getting double 6's on any given roll is always exactly 1/36. the same concept applies to all dice rolls.

20. srpna 2007, 07:28:51
Bernice 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
Tigger: Well I think it is the luck of the draw....for instance ...in a game of triple dice poker I have had 6 5's of a kind...I didnt cheat to get them I guess I was just lucky, and the game is only 1/2 way through so in theory I could get more...

20. srpna 2007, 03:41:02
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
wetware:  That's how I see it too.  Some players just know how to stack the odds in their favor.  Some players I consistently beat in the dice games.  Others I play I get taken to school.  It's not so much about the rolls they get but their knowing what to do with those rolls.

I suspect Fencer has many safeguards to keep BrainKing burglar free ;)

20. srpna 2007, 03:25:19
Vikings 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
bouncer: if they are very good in skill games, then they are also very good at knowing the probability in dice games and position themselves for the best chances, it is very hard to beat a player that has a 300 point higher rating even in dice games

20. srpna 2007, 03:17:01
wetware 
Subjekt: Re: just a question

Tigger: As you might know, there are some sites that allow you to review dice rolls after a game or series of games, showing what the actual distributions were--compared to the theoretical average values.  Neat stuff!  Sometimes I'll see that an opponent got more nice rolls than expected, but not so many that would clearly demonstrate some kind of cheating.  But those rolls and situations are painful...and they stand out in memory!


I think that in games involving dice (or in other games of imperfect information), very good players will combine a solid grasp of probabilities with an understanding of how those probabilities might unfold in play.  They'll do a better job of anticipating possibilities, and will tend to distribute their pieces in play so as to maximize positive outcomes and minimize bad outcomes.  I think that at times it can present the illusion that they're influencing rolls or getting access to hidden knowledge...


20. srpna 2007, 03:05:51
tippyc 
Subjekt: Re: question about ponds
coan.net: thanks for the help

20. srpna 2007, 03:04:00
bouncer 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
Tigger: Correct ...I had the same experience many times ...you always think the opponent got more doubles than you but in the end it isn't . But with these players ...mmm... dunno ...but they always got the right dice ...always in any single game ... people can be lucky sometimes but not always . I can't imagine how they could cheat but it is very strange . They are very good in skill games but meanwhile they are lucky in any single dice game .. Golden boys or what ????? :)

20. srpna 2007, 03:00:48
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
bouncer:  I'm not sure it's possible to cheat on BK when it comes to controlling what the dice do.  The dice rolls are controlled by the program on the server that Fencer is in control of.  I know I have played people who seem to get just the right rolls but I don't think they are really doing anything except being very lucky.  They probably think that of me when i get the perfect roll.

I remember once when my opponent kept getting doubles.  Tons of them.  I got ticked about it but didn't say anything.  After losing the game I went back and counted the doubles.  Turns out, I had more doubles than my opponent! 

20. srpna 2007, 02:53:56
bouncer 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
Family Man: That might be a good suggestion but when I create a tourney I want anyone to play . I will not exclude any BK player except for those 2 (let's say 3)...so I think it's better to throw them out just before the tourney starts

20. srpna 2007, 02:51:20
Family Man 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
alanback: I think it makes a great feature request, to be able to create more limits in a tournament or game we create,

So, send each other a PM with your lists or whatever you want to do, and leave it at that?

20. srpna 2007, 02:51:05
bouncer 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
alanback: INdeed ...I did check your finished games and you never played either of them . Lucky you !!!

20. srpna 2007, 02:47:58
alanback 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
bouncer:  Well, I play here as much as anyone and I don't have a clue who you are talking about.

20. srpna 2007, 02:45:00
bouncer 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
alanback: I will not mention their names on a DB cause otherwise I got a lot of american moderators or "would be "moderators over me again (story of my live ) lol but I think that people who play on BK for a few years all know who I'm talking about :)))

20. srpna 2007, 02:43:21
alanback 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
bouncer:  Who are these individuals?

20. srpna 2007, 02:34:24
bouncer 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
Eriisa: The dice wont work from time to time but there are these players for whom the dice always work even at the last moment ....when I'm sure to win a dice game (finally) one way or antoher they got double 6's or whatsoever and they alway always win .....it's sickening...I know this can happen but not day after day, week after week, year after year ....

20. srpna 2007, 02:31:23
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
bouncer: oooo! can you have them buy me a lottery ticket too???


I know what you mean tho. Lately the Triple Dice Poker has been driving me crazy, cause the dice won't work with me at all.

20. srpna 2007, 02:25:57
bouncer 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
alanback: I know but they are always winnig whatever we do. And they do in any game ...not only with dice but even in BB games. They never miss a boat ...I agree that in some games it's all about skills (like chess, mancale, reversi ....) but I'm sick and tired about some players who always (day after day, year after year) win any stupid "luck" game as well ... that's not normal ....they have to buy me a lottery ticket

20. srpna 2007, 02:24:19
Family Man 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
bouncer: I am sure that something like what you want is on Fencers list of things to do. But sometimes these features get lost in all of the other features that Fencer does.

It doesnt sound like anything that would be difficult to implement though.

20. srpna 2007, 02:22:56
alanback 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
bouncer:  Well, that's one way to ensure they continue winning!

20. srpna 2007, 02:20:01
bouncer 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
Family Man: There are some players I will not play anymore ...during the years on BK it seems they can not lose any game ... strange but they always get the right dice at the right time .... I'm talking about 2 or 3 players but they always appear on any tourney . So when I got those guys as opponent I resign the game from the first move . I'd like to see a possibility not to play those players again ... even if I block them they always appear on tourneys :(((((

20. srpna 2007, 02:17:10
srnity 
Just my opinion.....but seems kinda mean.....

20. srpna 2007, 02:12:02
Family Man 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
coan.net: They will not get a message - so hopefully they will not re-join with 5 minutes to go.


20. srpna 2007, 02:11:49
bouncer 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
coan.net: OK thanks ..that's a possibility indeed .

20. srpna 2007, 02:09:56
coan.net 
Subjekt: Re: just a question
bouncer: The only thing you can currently do is just remove them before the tournament starts. That is wait about 10 minutes before the tournament starts, then manually remove them. They will not get a message - so hopefully they will not re-join with 5 minutes to go.

20. srpna 2007, 02:08:04
bouncer 
Subjekt: just a question
Does anybody knows if there's a possibility to exclude some players from tourneys we create ? I know we can create tourneys with players allowed tioll a certain rating but what I mean is to exclude some players by name ..f.e. players who always win any game (cheaters I mean)

20. srpna 2007, 01:49:44
coan.net 
Subjekt: Re: question about ponds
tippyc: The next round will always be at the stated time.

So a 3 day pond, everyone has to make a move within the 3 days. Even if everyone makes their move in 1 day, it will still be 3 days before the next round starts.

20. srpna 2007, 01:39:21
tippyc 
Subjekt: question about ponds
Is the time limit for the pond for one person's move or for the whole round, meaning that everyone has to move within those three days?

19. srpna 2007, 22:31:29
trohat 
Subjekt: Re: Smilies
Eriisa: Sure I did ! Just uncheck that option on your settings page and browse some discussion board, like this, for example, and you will see the same. In some posts you will see those pictures, and in some other posts (especially in those which were modified), you will see *numbers*. Try it

19. srpna 2007, 14:18:00
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re: Smilies
trohat: I wonder if you would see them half the time because the rich text edit changes the star number star to <img> coding. I bet you'd see the html coding and not the * number *

19. srpna 2007, 06:35:01
tippyc 
Subjekt: Re: Smilies
trohat: it always used to show smilies for me, but when i got my membership (thanks madmonkey!) it showed them about half the time. i checked the settings and found that show smilies wasn't selected. i dont know if it was selected or not before i got the membership

18. srpna 2007, 17:08:39
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re: Smilies
trohat: that is strange!

18. srpna 2007, 16:42:47
trohat 
Subjekt: Re: Smilies
Eriisa: I do now, too ... it was because of Show smilies option in Settings ... but what I don*t understand is, that I saw most of them although didnt have this checked ...

18. srpna 2007, 14:31:22
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re: Smilies
trohat: I see the smileys

18. srpna 2007, 09:51:38
trohat 
Subjekt: Smilies
Změněno uživatelem trohat (18. srpna 2007, 10:21:19)
All: Do you see smilies in message from or2ak.com from 16.8., 13:11:14 ? I see just numbers and stars ... It happens to me from time to time, that in some message I see just numbers and stars and other messages with smilies are ok. Is something wrong with my settings or is it the same for everybody ?
Especially that Firefox smilie in that or2ak.com message is so lovely, and I cannot see it

18. srpna 2007, 08:04:54
Bernice 
Subjekt: Re: game timer
Binabik: I also have game with the same person that is doing the same thing....damned nuisance it is

18. srpna 2007, 06:06:31
coan.net 
Subjekt: Dice Poker
Well I was just playing a game of Triple Dice Poker, and thought I would share how I went from having 2 rolls to it being my last roll. After my first roll, I selected a dice to re-roll and I accidentally double clicked on the "roll dice" button, and it went strait to being my last roll - skipping 1 roll. (I can hit "back" on my browser, and says I have 2 rolls left - hit forward on my browser, back to all rolls already taken)

Anyway, I wanted to mention this because I remember others complaining at times that they "lost" their rolls while playing - and double clicking on "Roll selected dice" can explain that issue.

18. srpna 2007, 03:52:22
Binabik 
Subjekt: Re: game timer
coan.net: Thank you, I'm keeping my eye on it, just because I'm curious..... :+)

18. srpna 2007, 03:49:59
coan.net 
Subjekt: Re: game timer
Binabik: The only thing that I can think of is if they did have vacation days set (which of course we can't see now because that time has passed) - but you said they did not.

As of almost 4 hours ago, the server time in on "Saturday" - which is that users weekend days, so if they are still gone when Monday comes around, and I can see they have no vacation days set - nor auto-vacation set - I would like to watch to see if their games then start to time out or not. (And if not - then a bug is the only thing I can think of.)

... not that I don't believe you when you said they did not have vacation days set - but I always like to see it myself... and I did not look at the profile until "Saturday" flipped over.

18. srpna 2007, 03:41:25
Binabik 
Subjekt: Re: game timer
gambler104: Hmmm, doesn't make sense to me...

18. srpna 2007, 03:38:02
gambler104 
Subjekt: Re: game timer
Binabik: I think if they have preset vacation days the days are removed when set rather than when used.

18. srpna 2007, 02:08:07
Binabik 
Subjekt: game timer
Could someone tell me why this game keeps on renewing after the time runs out? This has been happening all week and this player is not using auto-vacation days, nor regular vacation.....
Backgammon (Alfo vs. Binabik)

18. srpna 2007, 01:59:59
Vikings 
Subjekt: Re: Fencer.....
Jules: lol

18. srpna 2007, 01:53:31
Mort 
Subjekt: Fencer.....
Could you do us a favour and fix it that in fellowships if you put someone on hide it actually works, as last I knew it only worked in the mod squad nowhere else.

Thankyou.

17. srpna 2007, 04:19:38
The Usurper 
Subjekt: Re: Uh oh...another glitch
rod03801: I'll pass this on as an interim solution until a better can be found. She says she also plans to post her problem in the WebTV f/s and hopefully get some help there. Thanks for the tip!

17. srpna 2007, 03:23:56
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re: Uh oh...another glitch
The Usurper: Highlighting the area where the text would be, should at least show the message. Not the best solution, but it's SOMEthing. (Highlighting it as though you are going to copy and paste it)

17. srpna 2007, 03:00:05
The Usurper 
Subjekt: Uh oh...another glitch
My friend who has the 'DB Disappearing Message' problem uses MSNTV.....

What is the solution for her?

17. srpna 2007, 01:45:25
Adaptable Ali 
lmao @rabbitoid

16. srpna 2007, 14:29:16
rabbitoid 
I'll consider it after my coffee break

16. srpna 2007, 14:26:21
The Usurper 
Subjekt: Re: Quick Update
rabbitoid: (Gulp)

Would you consider sueing my publisher instead? He can afford hot coffee.

16. srpna 2007, 14:24:38
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re: Quick Update
rabbitoid: ROFL

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