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16. července 2009, 22:15:12  Torture is a crime in the US, no matter where it happens. In January, Chucky Taylor, the son on Charles Taylor, was sentenced in Florida to 97 years prison for torture in Liberia. If it comes to US-torturer, US states secrets have priority, the law didn't count much under Obama so far, these trials could be a treat to the national security, so Obama. To me this means the same as if he would say that if we uncover these problems, people will stop trusting the US-government. 16. července 2009, 22:18:16 Subjekt: Re:  gogul: When people speak about actions that qualify as torture, I need to know what specific actions you are talking about because torture to some is listening to loud music over and over. My neighbors do that and it's lawful here up to 10pm. So if you speak of torture, you gotta be specific. 16. července 2009, 22:28:50 Subjekt: Re: Artful Dodger: The US entertains black holes round the globe, strange flights carry people who disapear in there. Then there are estimations of maybe 100 people died in interrogations in Irak and Afghanistan. To be specific, wouldn't that be the job o a trial? 16. července 2009, 22:45:04 Subjekt: Re: gogul: I know nothing of such black holes or people dying while being interrogated. Some evidence please. 16. července 2009, 22:56:25 Subjekt: Re: Změněno uživatelem gogul (16. července 2009, 22:58:36) Artful Dodger: Do you use the word evidence as in 'clue'? I don't have 'prove' but overwhelming indices *edit: I got the evidence* Wikipedia: black site 16. července 2009, 22:58:03 Subjekt: Re: gogul: overwhelming indices would be a place to start. But it must be backed with some facts etc in order to be accepted. 16. července 2009, 23:04:41 Subjekt: Re: Změněno uživatelem gogul (16. července 2009, 23:05:31) Artful Dodger: http://articles.latimes.com/2007/may/31/local/me-rendition31 Obama doesn't want this trial, for the reason it could treat the national security. 17. července 2009, 00:01:00 Subjekt: Re:http://articles.latimes.com/2007/may/31/local/me-rendition31 gogul: I'd heard about this but to be honest I'm not fully caught up on the ins and outs. That the ACLU is behind the suit troubles me. They sue anyone - even the boy scouts. But I'll look into it and decide. One thing off the top of my head: If the US had detained nuns or a couple of pre-school teachers, well then that is something. But I'm less sympathetic when it comes to terrorists. 17. července 2009, 00:06:27 Subjekt: Re: gogul: Ok, now that I've finished that first article I can say that if true, it needs to be exposed because that goes too far. I'd like to know the truth but I doubt we'll ever know. There's always another side. One thing that strikes me is that for a secretive operation there certainly are a great deal of known facts. That's very odd for something that is supposed to be top secret. Just an aside but I'll bet if given the choice, those dudes would have preferred water boarding. 16. července 2009, 22:31:37 Subjekt: Re: Artful Dodger: A fair trial. |
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