Bernice:

Is it that different from little "cadet" training for kids? What about parents who teach their kids to use guns, or who send them to "military school"? We have video games designed by the Pentagon. Those games have as their objective to desensitize youth and to advertise a career in the military for them. Most war video games are being produced with funding from the military. Many Hollywood movies have funding from the military too, and the military supplies vehicles, aircraft, ships, etc. when film companies want to make movies. For the military it is "free advertising".

We might feel that we are better, but our culture is a culture of violence too. The difference is that instead of fundamentalist islam, we sell freedom and democracy as an excuse for militarizing our youth. Then we are surprised about things such as the Columbine High School Massacre.

Bernice: Perhaps by dealing with key issues. Israel is not flavour of the month at the mo in Europe and the USA. Spying, assassinations, bribery.. murder, taking land and property of those who legally have the right to live there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GPtMfhpQ4Y

(V): well I dont really think it is a laughing matter, but that video is hilarious.

Bernice: Spitting image was a great series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQa4iFmkW4

The only way to diffuse the problem with Muslim extremists is by dealing with the recruitment points used, that which is causing the angers. It worked in NI, where 99.99% of those at war are now at peace. They want peace to work.

... Bin Laden and his gang was a leftover of the cold war, I remember the news showing how these "brave guys" are killing Russians in Afghanistan. Their weaponry, the bad Russians, etc.

The west trained them to conduct guerilla warfare.

What gets me is with the Bin Laden family being based in the USA at the time with their links.. Surely they knew in US intelligence that Bin Laden was heavily against the USA.