Tuesday: As a child, I went to a "Bible School" once a week, after school.

In some ways it was a wonderful experience. The ladies who taught it, were wonderful people. It usually dealt with a sort of kid's version of a sermon... and then some singing.. then some arts n crafts. However, I remember a few times, when this singing/sermon would end up in them "speaking in tongues" .. for a 12 yr old, this was actually quite alarming, and it is actually one of the things I remember most.

I personally am quite anti-organized religion. I sometimes think it was because of this childhood experience.

However, I believe that whatever each of chooses to believe, to help us get through this world, is what should be.

Personally, I guess I'm more of a "naturist" (if that is even an acceptable term). This isn't I suppose, about what we personally believe, but I would say that I feel God is all around us. God is nature. God is the air. God is whatever gives everything LIFE. I don't believe that God is at all human like. There isn't a God that sits in judgement, to me. To me, the whole judgement thing comes from "fate" in general. I Do believe what "comes around, goes around"

Hmm, I seem to have forgotten what my point is.

I guess I'm at a disadvantage in that since I don't subscribe to any "organized religion" (I was brought up "Baptist" though), so I don't have any "WORDS" to support me.

I guess the subject of "speaking in tongues" brought some "interesting" memories to me. I think, looking back on it, I feel it was quite irresponsible of them to allow this sort of thing to happen, in front of a bunch of children. I think it had a LOT to do with my current reluctance to accept any form of "organized" religion.

Tuesday: just out of curiosity, are you saying that everything that Jesus said and done for 32 years only applied for that 32 years, because you are telling us that what he said doesn't matter after he died

since when was being saved a law?

Tuesday: It's a HUGE dilemma to me. I have NO doubt that these 3 particular ladies who "ran" this class were quite wonderful people. In OTHER respects, they had a pretty big impact on my life. I struggle with it. I find it hard to believe that they would have "faked" it. They were generally quite caring about all of us. Is it possible that some people are just so "overcome" that they really think it is happening? I'm totally torn about it. I think overall, I guess I think it's some psychological thing on their part, that they truly believed it was happening. It TRULY blew MY 12 yr old brain though.

rod03801: What you've described is pantheism. It basically means God is in all.

Tuesday: I beg to differ, I visited a church a couple of years where the minister began speaking in tongues during his sermon. as I recall he ruined a rather nice sermon,

Tuesday: "speaking in tongues" isn't what some churches do now...that's a farce. The diciples were given knowledge of strange languages to go to other countries to preach the gospel. Ppl who babble are overcome with something that's for sure. Why does going into a church building suddenly give ppl some power to act like fools. They don't do that in public or at work or the grocery store.


it applies to your accepting part of a verse and discounting the rest

Artful Dodger: exactly