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27. března 2009, 03:46:24

The Usurper

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Czuch: "I still want to hear V explain to me how it is okay to regulate banks because they took our money, but we are not allowed to regulate individuals who take our welfare? IE drug tests, or why not even regulating their reproduction as well?"

I'm afraid both the handouts (to rich & poor) & the regulations (of banks & welfare recipients) rather prove we are in a collectivist society. And I'm afraid one can't approve of either without being a collectivist. Not only are we not safe, we are already enslaved. The chains are just not so apparent yet in everyone's lives.

27. března 2009, 04:07:06

Czuch

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The Usurper: Not only are we not safe, we are already enslaved.

So are they fighting for an end game, or have they already achieved it?

If they already have us, why not put the hammer down and get it over with already?

Take us out of our misery already...

27. března 2009, 04:47:48

The Usurper

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Czuch: "So are they fighting for an end game, or have they already achieved it?"

Precisely, they are fighting for an End Game. Had they achieved it already, you and I wouldn't be free to discuss it right now.

"So they use different tactics for the same results? The whole point is to make us weak, and then hammer us with a new world order?"

That is correct.

27. března 2009, 05:20:14

Czuch

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The Usurper: Not only are we not safe, we are already enslaved.

Had they achieved it already, you and I wouldn't be free to discuss it right now.

It cant be both.... we are free yet enslaved at the same time?

27. března 2009, 05:30:54

The Usurper

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Czuch: "It cant be both.... we are free yet enslaved at the same time?"

Sure it can be. Just ask yourself what you need the government's permission to do now. And what the government does not permit you to do, whether or not you ask for it. Now compare that to what Americans in the past did not need permission for, and you begin to see the incremental progress of enslavement. Keep in mind, asking permission means you are not free, even if the permission is granted. What is granted can also be denied. And also observe, the chains are thickening, not weakening. Some slavery arrives instantly; some approaches gradually, so that we, as frogs, don't notice the water heating up....or if we do, it doesn't burn enough all at once to make us react.

27. března 2009, 05:38:35

Papa Zoom

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The Usurper:I can't build a deck on the back of my house without a government permit. Even though the current deck exists but is rotting out. I can replace boards one at a time and over time could rebuild it that way. That's legal. But I can't build it all at once unless I give them 200 dollars to say it's ok. Then they will come out and look at it and say, "looks good." (I built it anyway without their blessing)

A man is building his dream home in a newly developing area. As the area grows, sidewalks will be put in by the contractors (a State law). but the single home owner is being forced to build a sidewalk (under the same regulation) even though a) he'll never be able to use it and b) an new one will be build (and the old one will have to be torn up.

Cost? 15 thousand dollars to the home owner. Stupid incompetent public servants. (oxymorons all)