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coan.net: That would be the best solution. MadMonkey's sugestion would be acceptable if Fencer refuses to do the bye system though. It realy is a problem especcially with trying to make tourneys for all games. some games like backgamon, and chess are very popular and you may get 128 people others though you may only get 7. There is no reason that both should not run if max was set to 128 and min to 4