BrainKing - Diskussionsforen (BrainKing.com)

HELP !!!!

1. März 2013, 20:47:57

**silence is golden**

1. März 2013, 20:11:40

Marshmud

Thema: Re:

MadMonkey: It is why I did not join in on your tourny and sure that is the reason for your low turn out. . Yesterday when most was complaining, I was fine. This morning (7am est) I could view any page it seemed but when I went to play a game it would not load. Now its fine.

1. März 2013, 17:42:30

Thema: Re:

Verändert von MadMonkey (1. März 2013, 18:09:13)

Marshmud: Mine seems fine, but seem to be getting more people complaining

I am having problems getting people sign for a 'No Days Off' Tournament as they dont know if they can get on the site

1. März 2013, 15:23:56

Marshmud

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MadMonkey: I can't even get on the main game page.

1. März 2013, 09:16:39

I suggest game Time-outs are frozen until this problem is sorted.....there obviously is something wrong

1. März 2013, 05:52:46

that just timed out and when I clicked refresh it came straight to this page again....???

1. März 2013, 05:51:32

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bert515: I guess we just have to wear it....looks as tho nothing will be done :(

28. Feburar 2013, 23:59:00

beach

Thema: Re:

bert515: I agree its awful

28. Feburar 2013, 21:39:38

bert515

like playing in a bloody blizzard !!!

28. Feburar 2013, 12:53:05

beach

Thema: Re: Slow site and white page.

crosseyed: its the same for me this morning, I gave up on it last night I couldn't make any moves just white pages again

28. Feburar 2013, 11:13:53

Thema: Re: Slow site and white page.

MadMonkey: I am not so sure about the last part of your message. I have had to leave this site six times already within an hour. I find it so frustrating.

28. Feburar 2013, 11:05:23

Thema: Re: Slow site and white page.

crosseyed: This white page thing brings back bad memories of when the site was very young lol (well, i know what i mean

) ......we went through a few months of this white page problem in its first year, but Fencer cured it in the end. Hopefully that will help him search down what is causing it

28. Feburar 2013, 10:21:27

Thema: Re: Slow site and white page.

Verändert von crosseyed_uk (28. Feburar 2013, 10:24:37)

bert515: Yes I had the same problem last night. I had to leave the site twice last night. And the same is happening intermittently this morning. As I tried posting this message the white page came up for several seconds and I clicked on fresh and nothing happened. I had to leave the site and when I came back this message had posted twice.

28. Feburar 2013, 10:10:48

Thema: Re:

Bernice: Something happened yesterday evening (GMT time), i had 2 computers logged into BrainKing & on both when i went back to them tabs both had 'Page not found' errors

but when i refreshed all was ok

from what you said , i guess something else happened after that

28. Feburar 2013, 06:40:12

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Verändert von Bernice (28. Feburar 2013, 07:26:24)

bert515: exactly.....I am having the same probs again also....but of course it isn't BK, it is us..........

28. Feburar 2013, 04:34:18

bert515

getting slow moves and white screens after making a move again like a few weeks ago...

22. Feburar 2013, 21:14:54

Purple

Thema: Re: Longest match

Thad: This is what Masters level checker players do..almost.

22. Feburar 2013, 21:13:01

Thad

Thema: Re: Longest match

It seems entirely possible that a 10-wins match with a high probability of ending in a draw could reach that many games. But then again, who'd want to play 230+ draws out of 255 games!

21. Feburar 2013, 19:59:45

Thema: Re: Longest match

rod03801: Shows you how much I know. I never create new games on Brainking, just join existing tournaments, so I didn't know it wasn't possible.

21. Feburar 2013, 00:41:30

rod03801

Thema: Re: Longest match

Roberto Silva: He means it wasn't even a readily available option. Who ever created the match "went around" things to create a match that long.

*I think thats what he meant anyway.

20. Feburar 2013, 19:25:25

Thema: Re: Longest match

Fencer: I think you've lost me now...

20. Feburar 2013, 19:02:51

Fencer

Thema: Re: Longest match

Roberto Silva: Well, I certainly hadn't supposed that someone would find it worth hacking to pass a number greater than 9 there.

20. Feburar 2013, 18:38:16

Thema: Re: Longest match

Verändert von Roberto Silva (20. Feburar 2013, 18:39:19)

Aganju: In Brainking's defense, I'd think "no one will play a match with more than 255 games" was a reasonable programming assumption...

You'd need double server capacity to store the games on a 2-byte counter right?

20. Feburar 2013, 13:05:54

Aganju

Thema: Re: Longest match

Verändert von Aganju (20. Feburar 2013, 13:06:06)

Thad: lol.
Looks like the coder saved memory and used a one-byte integer to count them. 80ies style.

20. Feburar 2013, 06:49:48

Thad

Thema: Longest match

Wow, it looks like you can't play a match that's longer than 255 games. Our match just disappeared from the main page without any warning or message or anything after game #255. Open Pente (Thad vs. JackS)

19. Feburar 2013, 14:20:37

furbster

http://brainking.com/en/Interviews?ht=31

Thema: Last few days to ask bobes your questions

17. Feburar 2013, 15:03:50

Thema: Re: Connectivity

Fencer: The site appears to be working well with me now. Let's hope it stays that way. This morning I could not make any moves in my games.

17. Feburar 2013, 11:18:37

Fencer

Thema: Re: Connectivity

crosseyed: Since the site itself is fast and running without any problems, it seems that only some routes are affected. It usually means that there are problems with certain network nodes which is out of our reach (so we can only wait).

17. Feburar 2013, 11:08:18

Thema: Re: Connectivity

Verändert von crosseyed_uk (17. Feburar 2013, 14:59:44)

Fencer: Thank you for informing us. Yes I am having difficulty playing my games this morning.

17. Feburar 2013, 10:52:31

Fencer

Thema: Connectivity

You might have noticed some connect problems that started about an hour ago. I have already notified the ISP (the issue is on their side), so I hope they will fix it soon.

12. Feburar 2013, 00:17:58

wetware

Thema: Re:

Energizer: I love progressive, and play a strong game. Would recommend adding a Fischer Random option for it, as (IMO) the standard variant's openings are deeply analyzed, and don't offer much opportunity for original analysis.

11. Feburar 2013, 20:25:26

Energizer

Progressive chess is a chess variant in which players, rather than just making one move per turn, play progressively longer series of moves. The game starts with White making one move, then Black makes two consecutive moves, White replies with three, Black makes four and so on. Progressive chess can be combined with other variants; for example, when circe is played as a game, it is usually progressively. Progressive chess is considered particularly apt for playing correspondence chess using mail or some other slow medium, because of the relatively small number of moves in a typical game.
What about making Progressive Chess on the Brainking...

8. Feburar 2013, 17:29:18

Justaminute

Thema: Re: Connect4

Roberto Silva: Stats can be misleading. loop chess has a significant advantage to the player with the inititive (white). Never the less it is far from a forced win and a stronger black player can neutralise the advantage and go on to win.

8. Feburar 2013, 16:32:54

Thema: Re: Connect4

SL-Mark: Maybe. I've only played any variant of that game once or twice I think, so can't really say anything about it.

7. Feburar 2013, 22:31:48

SL-Mark

Thema: Re: Connect4

Roberto Silva: I would argue that in Espionage and its variants, its makes no difference if you are white or black.

7. Feburar 2013, 21:07:41

Thema: Re: Connect4

Marshmud: No turn-based game is ever balanced. For every game either moving first or moving second is a better option, and master players will exploit that easily. Even chess is unbalanced in favor of white, and between grandmasters a black player can be quite happy if he gets even a draw.

However, if you check the stats for the other games mentioned (Maharajah, Horde Chess, Battleboat Plus, etc.) you will see that those games are so unbalanced that one side automatically has a huge advantage. It's not that a highly skilled player can exploit a bias in the game, but that the game is heavily loaded against one side regardless of skill or ability.

7. Feburar 2013, 20:40:29

rabbitoid

Thema: Re: Connect4

Marshmud: Concerning spider line4: true about the huge advantage, but the game is complex enough to be fun even as a second player.

7. Feburar 2013, 15:48:43

Marshmud

Thema: Re: Connect4

Roberto Silva: Those stats don't tell the true story. In Regular stack4 the 2nd player has a huge advantage. In the variants, like spider 4 The player who goes first has the advantage. Such an advantage that a good player will seldom loose.

7. Feburar 2013, 15:34:54

Hrqls

Thema: Re: Connect4

Roberto Silva: hmm just a feeling .. i like it best to start as player 2, and i think i win more when my opponent has the first move

will have to check my games to be certain

7. Feburar 2013, 14:21:03

Thema: Re: Connect4

Hrqls:
white 34313 (51.78 %)
black 31472 (47.49 %)

You sure about that?

7. Feburar 2013, 07:53:13

Hrqls

Thema: Re: Skewed Games

another example is connect4 : player 2 has a big advantage there as well

6. Feburar 2013, 23:53:44

Carpe Diem

Thema: Re: Skewed Games

Gabriel Almeida: Didn't forget; I've never played it. ;)

I just listed the ones people mentioned.

6. Feburar 2013, 23:07:11

Gabriel Almeida

Thema: Re: Skewed Games

Carpe Diem: You forgot one way checkers. Easy win for white. In 3 moves it get a huge advantage...

6. Feburar 2013, 21:53:32

likewowman2cool

Thema: Re: Skewed Games

pedestrian: Great idea!

6. Feburar 2013, 21:50:56

pedestrian

Thema: Re: Skewed Games

likewowman2cool: A simple way to take away any bias is Battleboats would be to have 'simultaneous' moves like in Logik: Even though the players take turns, the outcome is only revealed after the second player's move. And the game is drawn if they use the same number of moves to reach the goal.

6. Feburar 2013, 21:36:51

ketchuplover

Thema: Just a thought/proposal...

after the first move the players would move twice each turn.

6. Feburar 2013, 21:34:55

likewowman2cool

Thema: Re: Skewed Games

Carpe Diem: I like your suggestion for battleboats plus. I would love it if they changed it so that for the very first move of the game that player one gets only 2 moves, and then for the rest of the game it is 5 (or fewer of course once ships get sunk) for both players.

6. Feburar 2013, 21:33:30

Carpe Diem

Thema: Re: Skewed Games

likewowman2cool: Haha, funny you would mention Connect6 - I just edited my last post to say that using the same idea as Connect6 does for the first move might help with the Battleboats Plus problem.

6. Feburar 2013, 21:31:05

likewowman2cool