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7. August 2010, 17:17:29
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Re: Courtesy of another fellowship....
Bernice: The best I could find on it was that it's a quote from a Czech newspaper - author unknown. Every source I found said it was from the Czech Republic but I suspect they found a posted copy with the same claim and it spread from there. It is right on however. It describes Obama perfectly.

7. August 2010, 16:04:25
Mort 
This is the header to the copy I got of this email:
"The Prager Zeitung is a German newspaper in the Czech Republic issued weekly in Prague. It is the largest non-Czech newspaper published in the Czech Republic ."

And in addition was this:
" This quote was translated into English an article appearing in the Czech Republic as published in the Prager Zeitung of 28 April 2010 . "

If you search using the Prager Zeitung, all the links you get to Sean Hannity say the article was published on 4/28, but if you search just the quote, the quote shows up on the respectable periodical, gunbroker.com, in January. Did the "anonymous" author send it telepathically to some dude on gunbroker.com or something??? It then appears on godlikeproductions.com in February in a slightly modified form.

You can't even find a link in translated German anywhere, or anything remotely close to it on pragerzeitung which you should be able to easily detect even with German language skills as retarded as mine.

Sorry. Someone pulled this article out of their ***. This article doesn't exist and isn't even information. There should be no more responses to this thread except to ridicule the author.

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It really doesn't matter if a Czech paper, Hannity, Rush, Maher, or Fox News wrote the quote in MY OPINION it hits the nail on the head.

Only leftist fools educated in government schools think otherwise.
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Yes, it does. It matters very much. Falsifying information sources is a big deal.

You can't pass something like this off, praise the specific source, then backpedal and say the source doesn't matter when it's shown to be false. It shows whatever sources you are relying on are, at best, it's really, really bad journalism. At worst, they're willing to put their ideology above the truth and intentionally falsify facts to further their agenda.

7. August 2010, 03:09:12
Pedro Martínez 
Thema: Re: Courtesy of another fellowship....
Bernice: I love it… and I'd love to know who said that. It doesn't sound like any Czech politician I know, lol. I'll try to google it.

7. August 2010, 02:59:51
Bernice 
Thema: Re: Courtesy of another fellowship....
Pedro Martínez: no Im sorry I don't I CCP'd it from another f/ship....but isnt it clever ROFL.....

7. August 2010, 02:54:04
Pedro Martínez 
Thema: Re: Courtesy of another fellowship....
Verändert von Pedro Martínez (7. August 2010, 03:10:03)
Bernice: Do you know whose quote it is?

7. August 2010, 02:52:52
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Re: Courtesy of another fellowship....
Bernice:

7. August 2010, 02:51:24
Mort 
Thema: Re: Someone over there has it figured out...
Bernice: He is a man?

7. August 2010, 02:31:14
Bernice 
Thema: Courtesy of another fellowship....
I think it is probably right.............

***QUOTE OF THE CENTURY,,,,
Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out:


"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."***

6. August 2010, 23:55:03
Mort 
Thema: Re: There is no enthusiasm for the Health Nazification Act, and even the bluest of blue electorates
Artful Dodger: Uhhh no they are not. Voting seems to be pretty split down the middle. It seems to be known (so I read) ....


..."Missouri has been known for its population's generally "stalwart, conservative, noncredulous" attitude toward regulatory regimes, which is one of the origins of the state's unofficial nickname, the "Show-Me State."".........

40,000 is one in eight?? Over 1.4 million people voted for the Democrats in 2008, just a few thousand less then the Republican party got.

6. August 2010, 23:35:47
Mort 
Thema: Re:Are you suggesting that "the other side" doesn't "manipulate guts"?
Verändert von Mort (7. August 2010, 01:14:13)
rod03801: Not as much from what I've seen. The style of political banter seems to be less aggressive and also less about fear and more about policy.

You've got to understand Rod I live in a country where buying a Cuban cigar is not illegal. We were not taught to fear a USSR missile attack, but nuclear war full stop whoever started it. As we in the UK and Europe were screwed whoever started it. Europe especially was toast through short range and tactical nuclear weapons.

Communism was never made illegal here. We didn't have a McCarthy. Political freedom has and is protected as long as you do not break the law.

6. August 2010, 23:10:19
Bernice 
Thema: Re: Perfect lol
Artful Dodger: awwwwww...fankeee......I always knew you weren't just a purty face

6. August 2010, 18:46:42
Papa Zoom 

6. August 2010, 18:42:30
Papa Zoom 
Thema: This is what even Democrats voted in in favor of....and MANY more Dems simply didn't bother to vote.
August 6, 2010
Randall Hoven
"No law or rule shall compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in any health care system. A person or employer may pay directly for lawful health care services and shall not be required by law or rule to pay penalties or fines for paying directly for lawful health care services. A health care provider may accept direct payment for lawful health care services and shall not be required by law or rule to pay penalties or fines for accepting direct payment from a person or employer for lawful health care services." Partial wording of Proposition C, which passed in Missouri, August 3, 2010.

6. August 2010, 18:30:55
Papa Zoom 
Thema: I love it. Nazification Act perfect fit
There is no enthusiasm for the Health Nazification Act, and even the bluest of blue electorates could not be bothered to take fifteen minutes out of their day to support it. Oh, and 15% of ballots cast for Democrat Robin Carnahan in the election supported Prop C.

6. August 2010, 18:27:22
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Ferris, are you unable to answer the question?
HOW are they voting against their self-interests.

And

40,000 Democrats - more than one in every eight Democratic primary voters - voted against the centerpiece of President Obama's health-care plan. And these aren't just any registered Democrats; these are the party activists, the Democratic base."

6. August 2010, 18:08:20
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Re: Perfect lol

6. August 2010, 09:05:12
Bernice 
Thema: Re: Perfect lol
Artful Dodger: that is hilarious....I loved it. Do you know how those vids can be saved....that is worth passing around>

6. August 2010, 07:24:48
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Re:
Tuesday:

6. August 2010, 07:21:03
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Re:
Tuesday: No guts no glory. It's funny.

6. August 2010, 07:14:41
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Re:
Tuesday: You liked it!!

6. August 2010, 06:41:47
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Perfect lol

5. August 2010, 19:51:40
rod03801 
Thema: Re:
(V): Are you suggesting that "the other side" doesn't "manipulate guts"?

5. August 2010, 18:40:45
Mort 
Thema: Re:
Ferris Bueller: Interesting in Palin's/tea party talk it's about "conservatives" seemingly like being a Republican has gone out of fashion. Also that Palin is aiming at "conservative women" .. implying that "conservative" children are at risk if they don't act. The target (as in the government) gut reaction probably dates back to us British and other European govs reinforced by years of brainwashing over communism through incorrect and distorted facts, yet easily absorbed fear.

... I saw on the GOP site they are blaming Obama for the oil disaster, again relying on the BiG GoVeRnMent big bad wolf subconcious conditioning to carry the message despite that it is a lie.

Propaganda is a dangerous and risky political tool. It has a tendency to backfire and create pockets of extreme emotional responses. In the end.. who will define what is a "conservative".. that no-one of the conservative element on this board can or will define that suggests that they are being led rather than free thinking and why some just don't and cannot get the "conservative" message.

.. We can feel our guts being manipulated.

5. August 2010, 02:15:12
Papa Zoom 
Thema: Re: It's only the beginning
Ferris Bueller: how are they voiting against self interests?

4. August 2010, 22:39:02
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re:
(V):  Good post.  From products to politics, we care less about the facts.  Our gut level emotions are paramount.  Facts are manipulated to play on feelings.  Propaganda really does work on the masses.

4. August 2010, 22:23:43
Mort 
Verändert von Mort (4. August 2010, 22:24:07)
But Kansan voters, particularly Republican ones, should have the hottest fire under their feet on primary day. In the land of sunflowers and prairie dogs, Republicans outnumber Democrats two-to-one, which often makes July's GOP primary winner a near-lock for victory in November. Case in point: the Senate seat up for grabs has been held by a Republican since 1932 -- i.e., the days when Joan Rivers was in utero. With Sen. Sam Brownback giving up his spot to go gubernatorial, Congressman Todd Tiahrt--who, despite the troubling lack of vowels in his name, managed to get the Sarah Palin stamp--squared off against fellow congressman Jerry Moran, who joined Rep. Michelle Bachmann's caucus. Moran pulled through with the win, 160,000 to 140,000 votes, showing again that neither Tea Party-backing nor the wave of the Alaskan wand are infallibles.

Other Kansas highlights including the primary success of Democrat Stephene Moore, a nurse and the wife of retiring Rep. Dennis Moore, who seems set to face Kevin Yoder (the expected winner out of nine GOP hopefuls) in her attempt to be the first wife to survive a living member of Congress. And Brownback predictably won his gubernatorial primary, with a more-than-healthy 82% of the vote.

In the neighboring state of Missouri, voters weighed in on Proposition C, the first state challenge to the individual mandate contained in the new health-care reform law. Although the vote was more about political bragging rights than anything, given that the courts will have to decide on whether the referendum can trump federal law, the anti-“Obamacare” contingent got a big win. Only 29% voted that the state have to comply with the federal mandate, while 71% percent voted to exempt the Show-Me state. (As per the nickname, they clearly don't take things lying down.) The amount of voters casting a ballot for this -- nigh 1 million -- by far dwarfed the amount coming out to have a say in any other contest, by a margin of hundreds of thousands.

Other Missouri highlights: veteran Rep. Ike Skelton won his primary in Missouri's Fourth District, though the tough part will be keeping his seat in November. His opponent, state Rep. Vicky Hartzler, emerged from a field of nine candidates, though Ike must like that she'll be damaged a bit from all the infighting that led up the primary. Rep. Roy Blunt and Secretary of State Robin Carnahan, the two political-family candidates expected to win their senate primaries, did so, both with more than 70% of the vote. It should be a fiery match up, like two families in The Godfather going to the mattresses -- though Carnahan should be concerned that she racked up far fewer votes (265,000) than Blunt (410,000)

Read more:
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/08/04/heartland-primary-watch/?xid=rss-topstories#ixzz0vfdwi72J

4. August 2010, 22:14:39
Mort 
Thema: ??????
Updated: 2010-08-03 22:09:29
To the Editor,

I am writing this letter concerning the voting process in the state of Missouri. Therefore, I am writing to the people of Missouri and every state in the United States, if your state is like mine.

I went to vote today and when I got there I was told that I had to vote Republican if I wanted to vote for those running for state offices, Democrat if I wanted to vote for local races in Kennett, MO. They also had an Independent and Conservative ballot, all having Proposition C on them.

I was enraged. I was being told that I had to vote a certain way. People, it is our right as citizens of this country to vote for whom we want and not which party ballot we have to use. The state of Missouri legislators are the ones that set the rule that voting ballots are to be set up in this fashion. You have to believe their tactic in doing this is that they know many people will want to vote in the local election; therefore, they will be sure that the people they want in office will be elected to run in the general election or win the general election.

Well, needless to say, I DID NOT VOTE TODAY. This is the first election I have refused to vote in since I started voting and I am 57 years old. I will not be told which party or whom I can or cannot vote for, whether it is a primary or

general election. IT IS MY RIGHT AND YOURS TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE WE FEEL IS BEST SUITED FOR THE JOB! I know I cannot complain if who I think is the wrong person for the job gets into office or gets to be on the ballot in the general election.

This law must be changed! In my opinion, all names should be on one ballot, whether Republican, Democrat, Independent, or conservative on one state ballot and one local ballot. Moreover, if the names are on a state ballot and on a local ballot, we as voters should be able to use both of them if we choose to.

I know that voting has been this way for some time, but I am sick and tired of it. Why have we let the state take our right to vote as we see fit away from us? The voters of Missouri and other states need to think about this. Remember it is our constitutional right to vote as we feel.

Thank you,
Amenda Alexander
Kennett, MO

4. August 2010, 21:52:04
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: It's only the beginning
Artful Dodger:  The people of MO must really know how to vote against their self-interests.  What does the vote accomplish anyway?

4. August 2010, 18:40:26
Mort 
The Century Of Self :

The story of the relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American nephew, Edward Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations profession in the 1920s and was the first person to take Freud's ideas to manipulate the masses. He showed American corporations how they could make people want things they didn't need by systematically linking mass-produced goods to their unconscious desires.

............ watch it on youtube...................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dA89CBBOC0

4. August 2010, 07:18:32
Papa Zoom 
Thema: It's only the beginning
Show Me State Shows Obamacare the Door — In a Rout!
by Jim Hoft
MISSOURI VOTERS REJECT OBAMACARE!

Prop C passes in Missouri!

Over 70% of voters reject the democrat’s nationalized health care plan.

4. August 2010, 06:43:57
The Col 
Thema: Basil makes the big time!

4. August 2010, 04:39:24
The Col 
Thema: Re: Palin & Carl Jung
Tuesday: It's Annie Oakley syndrome

4. August 2010, 03:33:41
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: Palin & Carl Jung
Tuesday:  Either she or her PR firm are brilliant at using symbolism to resonate with her base.  Substance means very little if you can tap into people's collective unconscious - especially during hard times.  If she is a loon, she has some pretty big weapons if she can capture the Conservative psyche.  I now have a better understanding into the rabid popularity among her followers.  I wouldn't underestimate it.  That isn't to say I have any agreement with her.

4. August 2010, 01:08:37
Mort 
Thema: Re: Palin & Carl Jung
Ferris Bueller: She is using stereotypes... yep!

3. August 2010, 22:53:19
The Col 
Thema: Re: Palin & Carl Jung
Ferris Bueller: I don't dislike Palin half as much as I dislike the fact she is considered relevent.It is a sad comment on our current political environment that she has not been laughed back to Alaska.Can you imagine her entering the political environment of even the early 70's? I think the Republicans back then had more respect for political representation, and would have distanced themselves from her very quickly.

3. August 2010, 22:35:14
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Palin & Carl Jung

Here is an interesting article about Sarah Palin's appeal from the left wing Huffington Post.  It's not as insulting as you might think.  Both sides may find it an interesting analysis of her popularity.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/sarah-palin-mama-grizzlie_b_666642.html?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=080210&utm_medium=email&utm_content=FeatureMore


3. August 2010, 21:00:50
Mort 
Thema: Re: From the Independent
Jim Dandy: I think everyone who's gotten 'involved' in this stupid conflict needs to hire a small galaxy of PR firms.

3. August 2010, 20:05:05
The Col 
Thema: Re: From the Independent
(V): Israel should hire the Hamas and Hezbolah PR firm

3. August 2010, 19:57:46
Mort 
Thema: Re: From the Independent
Jim Dandy: I know. The IRA and Loyalists hated both being called terrorist organisations. N' thus being grouped together. The UK army hated it when they got caught out helping the loyalists even more.

3. August 2010, 19:37:14
The Col 
Thema: Re: From the Independent
(V): What a shame that such an exemplary organization such as Hamas is being lumped in with Israel for investigation

3. August 2010, 19:14:33
Mort 
Thema: From the Independent
Israel said yesterday it will take part in a UN investigation into a raid by Israeli commandos on a Gaza-bound flotilla in which nine Turkish activists were killed. The move allowed UN head Ban Ki-moon to announce the creation of a panel that would investigate the confrontation after activists tried to breach Israel's three-year blockade of the Gaza Strip.

The decision marks a departure for Israel, which has frequently viewed the United Nations with suspicion and accused many U.N. bodies of being unfairly biased against the Jewish state.

"Israel has nothing to hide. The opposite is true. It is in Israel's national interest to ensure that the factual truth about the entire flotilla incident will be brought to light and the entire world, and that is precisely the principle we are promoting," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement.

Israel refused to cooperate with an earlier investigation into last year's war in the Gaza Strip conducted by the U.N. Human Rights Council, which it accuses of disproportionately focusing on Israel. The inquiry concluded that Israel and Gaza's militant Hamas rulers both committed war crimes.

3. August 2010, 19:03:28
Mort 
Verändert von Mort (3. August 2010, 19:04:24)
Interesting that right wing American blogs note how Israeli civilians get nearly killed, yet do not report on the death of a Jordanian and the three that were wounded.

Nor do they report on the attacks on Gaza killing one person.

The tit for tat attacks need to stop. They did not solve anything in Northern Ireland, they just prolonged a war in which thousands died and were wounded and maimed.

3. August 2010, 16:27:09
Mort 
Thema: Re:handshake was enough to seal a deal.
Tuesday: Aye.. it was (when I learnt economics) part of the stock market code.. "My word is my bond"

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