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20. Juli 2009, 00:20:18
Übergeek 바둑이 
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> Maybe you will tell us? I dont believe that the civilian toll dead at the direct hands of
> US military(coalition of the willing) is as high as you might believe.

The issue of the death count in Iraq is highly dependant on who did the counting and how. Estimates of deaths range from about 100,000 to 650,000. I recommend looking at the article in Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_conflict_in_Iraq_since_2003

In 2006 The Lancet, a famous medical journal, published a peer-reviewed statistical analysis of the mortality rate in Iraq and came with a number of 654, 996 total deaths caused by the war. 601,027 were due to violence. 31% of those were done by the Coalition. That would be about 200,000 civilians killed by the Coalition.

Other surveys like the Iraq Body Count estimate a more conservative number of about 100,000. Other surveys push the number as high as 1,000,000 people. The problem is that few deaths are officially recorded, and many deaths are difficult to attribute to Coalition forces, the new Iraqi security forces and sectarian violence.

I tried to find surveys done by the US Department of Defense but so far I have not found any official estimates. If somebody can find them it would be interesting to compare them.

The dead are not the only casualties of the war. There people who are wounded, left disabled. psychologically traumatized, homeless, impoverished, etc. Those people are often ignored. The dead are one aspect of a war. The living who suffer are another aspect, and most people seem to ignore that too. I have idea of how many people have died as a result of hospitals being destroyed, lack of medicines, lack of food, lack of clean water, homelessness, disease, etc. If those people were included in the death toll, then the numbers jump to well over one million. Those are not deaths caused directly by violence, but as a result of the war.

20. Juli 2009, 04:20:56
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Übergeek 바둑이: Those are not deaths caused directly by violence, but as a result of the war.




Its just that many people, myself included, believe that those numbers pale in comparison to the death toll had nothing been done....

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