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6. März 2010, 06:06:21
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Some of Sarah Palin's "ideas".

6. März 2010, 06:56:58
Vikings 
Thema: Re: Some of Sarah Palin's "ideas".
Ferris Bueller: The Michael Moore movie being endorsed by the Huffington Post right above it says it all

6. März 2010, 16:20:13
Mort 
Thema: Re: Some of Sarah Palin's "ideas".
Ferris Bueller: She has ideas! Most UK people thought it was scary that she might get to be President of the USA.. in the same league as Nick Griffin becoming PM!! ;)

6. März 2010, 08:58:32
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: global warming "deniers"
Artful Dodger:   You state, "the global warming scenario is hype and is not supported fully by the science. "  That's what the tobacco industry sd. about smoking going back to the 40s & 50s.  They had "scientist" on their payroll to back up their false claims also.  The big oil cos. have their "scientist" to deny there is any such thing as man-made global warming.

6. März 2010, 23:14:34
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: global warming "deniers"
Artful Dodger:   You state unequivically that "One fact is that there has not been any warming since 1998."  Your so big on everyone who disagrees with you backing up their assertions.  Where did you get that one from?

7. März 2010, 08:24:54
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: global warming "deniers"
Artful Dodger:  I will admit that Joe Bastardi puts on a compelling show for your friends Bill O'Reilly & Glenn Beck.  But, he is a weatherman, not a scientist.  He is also on the dole of big oil which could be suspicious. In addition, he predicts the weather with an air of complete certainty.  Nobody can be that certain about the weather.  I agree that no science can be absolute, & no one can say explicitely when the world will end by global warming.  But, the vast majority of scientist agree that there is a man made component to global warming.  Based upon this evidence, I side on the need for gov't regulation to stem this trend.  It may happen anyway, but I think we can do things to delay it.

7. März 2010, 16:54:55
Mort 
Thema: Re: global warming "deniers"
Verändert von Mort (7. März 2010, 18:44:52)
Ferris Bueller: Since a big wrong prediction in the 80's here no weather man is stupid enough to say "my prediction on weather is 100%".

Did you guys in the USA get any acid rain by chance in the last 20 years or so? The type caused by pollution that killed forests??

7. März 2010, 22:16:32
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: global warming "deniers"

Artful Dodger:  My local weather lady, who is quite nice on the eyes I might add, is also a meteorologist & knows the science quite well, also.  But, she does not presume to be an expert on global warming.  Niether, to the best of my knowledge, does she do work for big oil cos.  IMHO qualifications do matter.  Monetary interests does have an influence on opinion.  The fact that these 2 guys appeared on O'Reilly Factor does not make them experts.  My guess is that they were doing it for showmanship.  Or, to represent their moneyed interests.  Same for those people who appear on Keith Olberman (sp?)


As for for the absolute assertion that there has been no global warming since 1998, I'm not a scientist & I can't say for sure (& neither can you).  But, I can say that the vast majority of scientists don't hold that view, or the view that a lot of global warming is not man made.


7. März 2010, 22:35:34
Mort 
Thema: Re: global warming "deniers"
Artful Dodger: Bill Nye knows the science, I see no mention of having the qualifications to do so..... mechanical engineering, he's qualified in that field. Nothing I can see about matters to do with climate.

7. März 2010, 22:39:09
Mort 
Thema: Re: global warming "deniers"
Artful Dodger: The arguments? Is this some strange reference to a Monty Python sketch??

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