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> nothing hypocritical about it at all. If a U.S. citizen leaks secret U.S. information, it is by law, treason. If a not U.S. citizen does it is by law, espionage, period.
Then when North Koreans accuse a citizen of breaking the law and they throw them in jail, it is OK. After all, if the law of that country says that it is espionage, then it is, and the opinion of other countries does not count. When Americans complain about dissidents being jailed, by North Korean law definitions they are criminals, then North Korea is justified in its actions. Free speech is meaningless then when the law says that something is espionage.
> I live in the USA. Why should I care if the secrets of China are exposed?
That is precisely my point. The only reason why Wikileaks is being prosecuted is because they exposed western interests. If they had exposed somebody else's interests, the American government would not care. Wikileaks has committed a crime by exposing information that Americans consider secret and dangerous.
What about defectors from North Korea or Iran then? I guess it is justified to defend them. It is a nice, hypocritical double standard. Like the standard that says that it is OK for western powers to have the biggest arsenals of WMDs while giving smaller countries a hard time for pursuing the same WMDs that western powers refuse to give up.
What we call national security and "the law" then reduces itself to hypocritical double standards. We can spy on others, but others cannot spy on us. We can expose the secrets of others, but others cannot expose our own. We can have WMDs, but others can't. We can carry preeemptive attacks on others, but others cannot carry them against us. We can drop bombs with drone planes on others, but others cannot do it to us. We give ourselves all these rights, but refuse to accept that other could do the same. Our enemies have criminal spies, we have heroic spies. We are ALWAYS right, they are always wrong. Those who expose us as being otherwise are nothing but criminals and spies.
Übergeek 바둑이: I think it is hysterical how liberals like to make comparisons like someone blatantly admitting releasing military secrets with someone trying to give away bibles, or hike in the mountains it must just burn like crazy in the pit of the stomach
Vikings: The journalist who was killed in Iraq by a USA Apache Gunship. His death was covered up. Don't you think that the family of that person had the right to know how and why he died? Or that someone got it wrong in the USA military is justification to cover up the 'friendly fire' death via calling it "secret".
> I wouldn't want the US spying on a friend and then releasing the info.
Isn't that one of the things that the American goverment was furious about? They were spying on "friends", then relaying the information back through diplomatic channels. It was okay until somebody spilled the beans. Now the guy is a traitor, for exposing the hypocrysy. All of that was about saving face. I can understand national security, but spying on the royal family, or Angela Merkel?
Thema: Re:But spy on China and release that info? Of course we should. And North Korea? The leaders there are nuts! Iran too. Crazy idiots. Why in the world should anyone care about what they think of the US?
Artful Dodger: If you don't know... I suggest you give up politics, it being a matter of international affairs.
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