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25. Januar 2011, 16:32:07
SL-Mark 
Thema: Re: Minimum wage
Übergeek 바둑이: Sorry to take so long to reply to your extensive answer. Much of what you say I can agree on, but much I disagree with too.

You also seem to be implying that my arguement is similar to that old chesnut, "take half the cars off the road and you will cut carbon emissions in half." We know that is not true, and that is not what I am saying here either. It is simply another inefficient tax, applied to gain some social equality, but only ends up making a nation poorer. But I'm repeating myself!

Here is a nice story I came across, explaining the tax system quite nicely :)

"THE TAX SYSTEM EXPLAINED IN BEER

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100...

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this...

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7..
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do..

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men ? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?


They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,"but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"

"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, as many are considering where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier."
By David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics.

25. Januar 2011, 19:38:29
Mort 
Thema: Re: he people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction.
SL-Mark: In cash.. but in the difference between having enough and not to live on...

Revolutions have been started by people not having enough whilst the rich "eat cake".

"In fact, they might start drinking overseas, as many are considering where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier."

Like the Bankers are threatening... that's blackmail!!

26. Januar 2011, 01:19:11
Mélusine 
Thema: Re: The tax system explained in beer
SL-Mark: I like very much this story !

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