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4. April 2011, 18:17:47
Übergeek 바둑이 
Thema: Lybia and Al Qaeda
According to recent news reports, the rebels that are trying to topple Gaddafi have been infiltrated by Al Qaeda. Apparently, Al Qaeda unveiled its full Lybia wing in 2007 and for the last few years has been trying to topple Gaddafi.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110315/ts_dailybeast/12919_alqaedaslibyaplans

Here is an interesting article of how complex the relationship between Al Qaeda and the Lybian people is, and how Gaddafi has tried to exterminate Al Qaeda in Lybia.

http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=307

There are claims now that the USA and its NATO allies provided weapons to the rebels trying to topple Gaddafi. Since Al Qaeda infiltrated their ranks, Al Qaeda has syphoned off weapons to its own AQIM (al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb). This is the North African army organized by Al Qaeda to topple North African governments, specifically Algeria, Lybia and Egypt. Among the weapons stolen is a cache of surface-to-air missiles.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=76232

If these claims are true, this could seriously jeopardize efforts to support regime change in Lybia because the end result might be not the democratic government that our western governments desire, but rather an extremist Islamic government controlled by Al Qaeda.

4. April 2011, 20:16:14
Mort 
Thema: Re: they can effect meaningful change in Afganistan.
Artful Dodger: From long programs here looking at the matter.. it's a gradual process. Any effective change in the mind set of the general population is going to take years if not at least a decade. The effects of decades of manipulation and the support of militant groups does not just dissipate over night.

5. April 2011, 06:18:06
Czuch 
Thema: Re: Lybia and Al Qaeda
Artful Dodger: I think it's hopeless for the US to think they can effect meaningful change in Afghanistan.

I had thought this was a post by the geek....

my bad, I just wanted to point out why the US liberals even think about changing the way we have done business here in the past 200 + years? Afghan has been around for how long... and you think we are doing something so wrong that we need a radical change?

5. April 2011, 15:10:49
Bwild 
Thema: Re: Lybia and Al Qaeda
Artful Dodger: I'm beginning to think Donald Trump has the answer.

5. April 2011, 20:02:37
Übergeek 바둑이 
Thema: Re: Lybia and Al Qaeda
Bwild:

> I'm beginning to think Donald Trump has the answer.

It is OK as long as Mr. Trump doesn't run the government like he did with his casinos!

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