gogul:

People forget that the entire "Representative Democracy" scam exists with one and only one purpose: To stop the people from going into another Fench Revolution. Capitalist governments fear revolution more than anything in the world. So the entire political and financial system exists only to stop revolutions from happening so that the rich and powerful can stay where they are. All the crisis and fear mongering exists to distract the population so that they can keep consuming like automatons. As long as the working class lowers its head, the rich and powerful are happy. Democracy and capitalism simply ensure that those heads stay lowered. We no longer need chains to be slaves. We use wages and money to keep the lower classes where they belong. Then we tell the wage slaves that they are "free" because they can consume anything they want. Then we tell them that they have "political power" because we let them cast a meager vote once every four years. Meanwhile the rich and powerful stay where they are: ruling everybody.

Übergeek 바둑이: Their are no capitalist governments they have all become fascist sucking up to corporate money and creating poverty in what was once called the free world.

Übergeek 바둑이: What changes everything is that informations reach almost every corner of this world. The degree of exploitation explodes in regions where soils get destroyed, homes and home get taken and given lost for these people to go to the factory, estranged from their own countrylands. I mean, I know adresses of Nestlé, Syngenta, ABB and so on, USB or rich Egyptians btw. Our multis are classical xenophobes, "hostile to foreigners", literally. Maybe not demagogs, but hostile to foreigners. Absolutely.

gogul: http://john101b.ipage.com/politics/oie_25124156p3YkPOTL.jpg

Übergeek 바둑이: you summed it up in a nutshell. theres no "left" or "right" but corporate and money changers.

Bwild: It's not that the rich are rich. It's the difference in the scales of pay that has widened over the last few decades.

That the CEO's now earn 260 times+ the wage of the average earner (in the USA) compared to in 1965 when it was 26 times, and that the Church support them because of the donations they make. Often, not as much as declared on tax returns.