Artful Dodger: Really... anyone having the pill is having sex 5 times a day...

What about the case Miss Fluke stated?

"Her testimony included the case of a fellow student who needed birth control to control ovarian cysts.

Georgetown, a Catholic university with a prestigious law school, does not cover birth control to prevent pregnancy in its student health plan, and the student, who is gay, could not convince the insurance company she was ill."

"She is having so much sex she needs government help paying for it "

No she wants her health plan (from a religiously affiliated institution) to cover it.

"The real story here is"

That Limbaugh is now apologising as his advertisers are abandoning him.

(V): Anyone that spends 1000 per year as Fluke said she does could only do that if they are having sex non stop. It's 4 bucks a month for the generic pills at the retail pharmacy and condoms are free via Planned Parenthood.

And an exceptional case isn't the standard we should hold up to raise everyone's insurance costs.

Fluke doesn't have to have sex. She wants to have it and wants others to pay for it. You need a basic economics less here Jules. If insurance companies are forced to offer the coverage she advocates, we will all pay higher premiums.

Jules, I looked in your previous posts and couldn't find where yo posted about Letterman when he called Palin a slut. Nor when an MSNBC host called Laura Ingraham a slut. And then Ann Colter, Michelle Malkin, and Michelle Bachman...all called foul names by those on the left. But like your missing posts on these incidents, there was no left wing outrage either.

BTW, I've never listened to Rush. Nice try but you missed the ball. And Rush will overcome this.

BTW, those "advertisers" that left Rush - interesting that they stayed with MSNBC even though it was on that network that Ingraham was called a slut.

And they say that the Left has no standards. Well, they in fact do have standards. -Double Standards-

Artful Dodger: ..... Is there a new pill that women only take once a month? Otherwise... it's 1everyday, or 21 days of the month (depending on the pill and woman)

Which (using the 21 day scenario) is 21 x 4 x 12 ie 1008

"You need a basic economics"

Looks like you need basic knowledge on how contraception is used!!

"when he called Palin a slut."

Maybe the word "slut" I don't find really that bad. It was the likes of this...

""If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch," he said on Thursday.""

....and his seemingly male need to call the woman a prostitute. Looks like he's threatened by the idea a woman can be in charge of her ability to have or not have children.

"BTW, I've never listened to Rush."

Never said you did.

"even though it was on that network that Ingraham was called a slut. "

Again, you seem to be concentrating on that word "slut".. as Jon said, that is pettyfogging.

(V): ""If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch," he said on Thursday.""

Wow, he really said that? Unless he also says the same about a dude who got a vasectomy or uses Viagra paid for by insurance needing to post their videos as well, this is pure misogyny. The name calling by Ed Schultz and whoever else is also unacceptable, but what Limbaugh said is pure evil.

lizrising: Not pure evil. What Hitler did to innocent people, cooking them in gas chambers, that's pure evil. What Rush said was just stupid. Comments like yours are why conservatives like myself don't take what you say seriously.

Now it seems the argument is that it's ok to call a woman a slut but not ok to ask for pictures.

It's simple Liz, it's all bad. You don't call a woman a bimbo or a slut or suggest she post videos. It's all bad. Letterman was wrong as was Ed as was Rush. Bill Mahr gets away with his foul name calling because as he said, he doesn't have sponsors. (his exact argument for why what he says is not wrong)

Slavery is pure evil. Molesting children is pure evil. Murder is pure evil. Raping is pure evil.

How you can seriously put Rush's comments in the same category is puzzling.

Artful Dodger: By demanding videos he is insinuating that he owns Fluke's body because "he paid for" (he didn't actually) her birth control. Yes, that is evil and completely unacceptable.

"Now it seems the argument is that it's ok to call a woman a slut but not ok to ask for pictures."

Others may say that but not me. I think that is completely unacceptable as well and I don't support Ed Schultz or David Letterman or Bill Maher for name calling either.

lizrising: I'm just saying its all wrong but Rush's offense doesn't rise to the level or pure evil.

lizrising: BTW, you inferred it. You are projecting that he implied what you are saying. And clearly Rush was being sarcastic and trying to be over the top. He certainly wasn't being serious.

I wish liberals would just be honest about this topic. Protecting the left when they do the same thing (as you did with Ed of MSNBC) while vilifying the right is hypocritical. Read this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/04/rush-limbaugh-s-apology-liberal-men-need-to-follow-suit.html

She's a well known liberal and about the only liberal that is making any sense in this matter.

"Protecting the left when they do the same thing (as you did with Ed of MSNBC) while vilifying the right is hypocritical"

I did no such thing. I don't care for Ed Schultz and have no reason to protect him.

lizrising: Liz, you said Ed was inappropriate but that Rush was pure evil. You minimized what Ed said. That's dishonest.

Artful Dodger: I was referring to Rush asking to see sex tapes. Ed did not do that.

I am not the complete liberal apologist you think I am. I am critical of everyone in the media. Actually, sometimes I even agree with the things you post here.

lizrising: So calling a woman a slut is just bad form but asking for sex tapes is pure evil? You can't be serious? That is a huge double standard! Both are equally wrong. Maybe it's just that Rush is a conservative and that's your biggest beef.

Artful Dodger: Calling someone a name is not equal to demanding something of someone as though you own them. Somehow you turned "completely unacceptable" into "bad form." Stop turning my words around.

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lizrising: It's your own personal interpretation that Rush suggested he "owned" Fluke. That is laughable. You're making this up as you go. The real standard of a liberal is the double standard.


And liz, you originally said unacceptable, NOT completely.

Something that is unacceptable can also be bad form. I have the better view: equally bad. Equally unacceptable. Equal! You're still making excuses.

lizrising: He's just some old git, just trying to keep his ratings up.

lizrising: "The name calling by Ed Schultz and whoever else is also unacceptable, but what Limbaugh said is pure evil."

nonsense

I've already explained to you what real evil looks like. Don't cheapen it. And your statement above is clearly minimizing the name calling by Schultz. So it's not so bad, according to you, to call a woman a slut. Just inappropriate (like farting in public). Come on!

(V): Jules I was clear. It's cheap to buy generic pills. I never said one. Don't be a dolt.

Artful Dodger: Then don't make out it's only 4 dollars a month for contraception by the pill method then as you were implying.

ie like Limbaugh, stop exaggerating.

(V): It IS only 4 dollars a month for the generic brand for "The Pill." Get a clue.