Iamon lyme: I told ya you'd get frustrated with Jules. Get ready for more. Hell take the side of any issue as long as its not yours.

Artful Dodger: I don't get how he or The Col think they can get away with defending voter fraud... it seems their strategy is to call it anything but what it actually is. And if Canadian conservatives talk like our liberals, then I can only imagine what we would be hearing from their liberals.

Next thing you know they'll be against the death penalty because more Democrats are being executed than Republicans. If it was the other way around they would be encouraging the statis quo instead of kicking against it. But it's hypocritical of me to... to do what? To disagree with their point of view based only on wanting to insure standards of fairness are being equally applied?


Normally I won't quote what I've already said, but hey, why not... I'll probably be accused of 'nicking' myself. lol

>>>> Or when a five year old says "That's not fair!", you know it doesn't mean "I've looked at this from other points of view, and it's obvious to me that standards meant to insure fairness are not being equally applied." <<<<

Iamon lyme: I really believe that the reason the democrats are fighting voter ID requirements is that they've exploited the lax requirements in some polling areas. One of their arguments against Voter ID is that voter fraud isn't really a problem. Well it's well documented and some races have been won via voter fraud.

I love it that Jules brought up Bush "stealing" the Presidential election. Bush had won Flordia and the election and Al Gore called Bush and conceded the election. Then AFTER that call, Gore changed his mind and decided to challenge the Florida count. The Dems got right to work searching for boxes of "uncounted votes." Surprise, surprise; they found some. Then there was the "chad" question. What a farce. In the end, Gore took it to the courts and the courts ruled against him. Then the democrats claimed that the courts gave the election to the Republicans! Wait a sec! They are the ones that started the court proceedings! They will do anything to win.

Artful Dodger: I know this, you know this, and even they know this. And we all know who they are really trying to fool with this nonsense... those who don't know this, and are most likely to vote for them.

There must be enough people who don't know (or don't want to know) for the Democrats to be making this kind of pitch, otherwise it wouldn't be worth the effort. No one goes out on a limb and intentionlly says foolish things unless they believe it will accomplish their purpose... I don't know if I'm underestimating liberals or overestimating them, because they seem to think this will work... they can't all be idiots.

Iamon lyme: Well they are losing the arguments in the courts. I'll bet that just puts the crumbs in their bedding.