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3. August 2009, 00:28:37
SL-Mark 
Thema: BKR ratings
Sorry to drag this subject up again. However, as it is one of the neatest things on Brainking, and is important to many people, I will excuse myself. On the Espionage board, we are currently having a debate on BKR and have posted the latest entry below.

BKR ratings are important. Having a tight BKR range at the top promotes competiveness and moral. However, where someone has leapt in with an extremely high BKR rating, causes abuse (defend rating by only playing low rank players) and creates less competiveness as that rating is almost unassailable as well as frustration in the other players.

The feature request is to modify the initial rating awarded during the first 4 games. There are many possible ways of doing this, but perhaps the easiest would be to create a cap on the number of points awarded for each game. For example, assuming all 4 games won, a cap of 100 could produce an initial provisional BKR of 1700, or a cap of 150 could produce 1900.

Latest post on thread on Espionage board:
The flaw is more than the abuse.
The ratings work very well after the initial provisional BKR has been awarded, it is how the initial rating is derived that is often specious.
There is a big difference between inaccurate and wildly spurious.
Here is a real example from earlier this year. You can find many similar examples across all games.

Game 1 won, opponent BKR between 1500 – 1600
Game 2 won, opponent BKR between 1400 – 1500
Game 3 won, opponent BKR between 1700 – 1800
Game 4 won, opponent BKR between 1500 – 1600

So what initial provisional BKR should be awarded?
1600 – 1700 Largely inaccurate, as we have information on a 1700-1800 win.
1700 – 1800 Inaccurate, but best we can do with information available.
1800 - 1900 Largely inaccurate, no information to validate this.
1900 – 2000 Grossly inaccurate, absolutely nothing to suggest this.
2000 – 2100 Wildly Spurious!
What was awarded? A figure half way between 2000 – 2100.

You decide, flawed or not?

3. August 2009, 02:29:14
coan.net 
Thema: Re: BKR ratings
SL-Mark: Well I just want to make a quick post/comment since I know Fencer is working on some updates for the site.

Right now, the BKR on this site is a "Chess" rating system - which is a skilled game. So when games that start to have more luck attached to them, the "skill" rating system is not best suited for those games.... in my opinion.

I would love to see different ratings systems used for different games - like one that was designed for gammon games to be used for gammon games.. and possible others which have some luck in addition to the skill to it. (Not sure why types of rating systems are out there.... or if Fencer is interested in doing this, but thought I would through out that suggestions.)

3. August 2009, 11:55:59
SL-Mark 
Thema: Re: BKR ratings
coan.net: Thank you for your reply. On the whole very happy how the ratings work. I play mainly the espionage variants, so don't really know how it works for gammon.

The example below is from chess!

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