does this mean that there won't be a choice for us that like small pente and keryo the way it is now? i play it that way at iyt, and would like to have the choice to play it here.

IYT's version of the game was incorrectly set up. Three is no reasno to continue the error at other sites just because IYT did so in the first place. You seem concerned about having to play here with the restriction, no doubt because you are used to playing without it. That is precisely the problem! People are now resistant to playing the game the proper way because of how thye learned it at IYT.

Without the restriction, a player can make a potential on his first two moves. The restriction breeds an entirely different set of opening moves, and people who learn to play without the restriction have great difficulty to playing with it. Playing with the restriction is mandatory for any serious pente play, and is crucial for any player hwo is attempting to become a good pente player. FOr those who are not serious pente players or do not have an interest in becoming a strong pente player, what difference does it make if they use the resdtriction? Thisi s what I don;t really understand. The serious players and serious play require the restriction, and non-serious players shouldn;t care, because they aren;t serious about it!

So either way, I am not clear on who is hurt by having the restriction.

Again, I'll give my chess example. If you elarned to play chess such that the king can move two spaces insteado f one, you would be in bad shape when playing chess correctrly. BUt, just because you have become accustomed to this rule doesn't mean it should not be corrected. Will there be an adjustment period? Sure! But why is that a bad thing?

i have a short statement, these long ones are too tiresome. if you don't like playing it the way it is now, then don't play it, but leave the option for those that do.

ellieoop, you are being stubborn and argumentative. Do you really think you are making a convincing point? How can anyone take you seriously when you ackowledge that you cannot even read through a thoughtful post on the matter, and you simply repeat your unconvincing statement over and over?

WHY should the option be left for you to play the game incorrectly? WHY? you are giving NOTIHNG to support your request!

I am fully awar of my option to not play the game without the restriction. You do not need to inform me of this right, amazingly enough, I was NOT under the impression that I am being forced to play that way.

I don't understand why you think simply not playing the incorrect version should placate me or any other pente player.

This is akin to teaching people how do do math incorrectly and then saying "well, no one is forcing you to do it the wrong way, so butt out and let us have the option of continuing to do it the wrong way if we so choose. "

Well, that is a rather unconvincing argument.

Initially Fencer resisted the idea of changing the rule, because he thought That GAry and I and others simply didn;t like the variant. Of course, that is little reason to eliminate it, so he didn't. But after hearing carefully thought out reasons, he has decided to make the change. Now you are attempting to have the change reversed without even bothering to try to address the relevant issues. I find this frustrating, and I also am completely baffled as to why a casual player liek yourself cares so much about this.