Netanyahu to Obama: Stop Iran—Or I Will

Emne: Re: much more important things then the G20 and the news this week

Snoopy: It is so sad when you read stories like that :(
Girls/Females who are sexually active should be able to have the pap smear test at any age....God you see so many TV shows on teenage promiscuity where the girls start having sex at 9-10 years of age....that is when they should start having the pap smear IMO.
But no doubt I will be shot down on this....Oh well

4. April 2009, 22:53:31

Emne: Re: much more important things then the G20 and the news this week

Tilpasset af Snoopy (4. April 2009, 23:12:27)

Bernice: yes sadly we still behind most countries
with our age for screening starting at 25
the reason i asked V if it had changed has i thought i had missed it

this story springs to mind everytime i hear about it

http://www.itv.com/Lifestyle/ThisMorning/Health/Cervicalcancer132/default.html

she had so much to live for yet wasn't old enough to have the test and her parents have been campaigning since her death for the age limit to be lower

i remember signing the petetion over a year ago and still nothing happened

anyone in the UK who feels strongly about this issue please sign the online petition

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/template/v-1.0/module/petitionsPopUp.jsp?article=2250520

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/lowersmeartests/

4. April 2009, 22:10:02

Emne: much more important things then the G20 and the news this week

Tilpasset af Bernice (4. April 2009, 22:10:20)

(V): musta been benefit time.

Snoopy the age for screening over here is 18 for girls....cervical that is. I think (but not too sure) that breast screening is voluntary from any age....don't really know a lot about it tho.</b>

4. April 2009, 20:36:38

Emne: Re:but they sure do focus on the negative

(V): I'm referring more specifically to coverage like the war or a protest march. If a news organization is going to report on improprieties of the military, then they ought also to report on the good that is being done. Many decent men are serving the call of their country and doing good humanitarian work as well as combat. When something negative occurs, it should be placed in the larger context of the whole and not isolated. So in the case of the protesters, it's important to report the law breaking incidents but to also cover those that followed the law and kept their part of the protest peaceful.

4. April 2009, 20:32:54

Emne: Re:but they sure do focus on the negative

(V): have they lowerd the age yet?
where woman are to b e screened

4. April 2009, 19:04:11

Mort

Emne: Re:but they sure do focus on the negative

Artful Dodger: In some respects it's a bad thing, in some respects it's good. It depends on what the news is about.

EG... a certain celeb died recently over here, but the lining is that women who'd till that time not been screened for cervical cancer are now getting screened.

'Titanics'.

4. April 2009, 19:00:53

Emne: Re:1 arrest is to many

(V):Maybe hyped up isn't correct but they sure do focus on the negative - unless it's their man in the White House. When a news reporter says Obama gives him a tingle in his leg, you can be sure he'll have a problem with objectivity.

4. April 2009, 18:25:41

Mort

Emne: Re:1 arrest is to many

Czuch:

I didn't believe the hype, or say it was all soldiers, Because that is never the case. And I hope those who broke the law do get locked up... It'll make it better for the peaceful protesters in the future... Just like they did with the football thugs over here!!

Czuch... there is the reality of war and there are war crimes. Some things in war are just not acceptable, especially as us 'westerners' are supposed to be the moral bunch. If you do as those who you say are animals then you are an animal.... No matter who it is.

And Czuch... it wasn't hyped up. The news here said it was a few isolated soldiers, but they also said that in some cases it was encouraged.

Old saying... "In fighting a monster do not become one, as in becoming one... you have lost the war."

4. April 2009, 15:18:13

Czuch

Emne: Re:1 arrest is to many

(V): In any protest there will be elements that want to cause trouble. The minority do not represent us or show us up, they just show that there are elements in the UK just like the rest of the world. A shame, but just reality.

See, this is my point.... when it came to a few bad soldiers in a prison, your attitude towards a minority were much different.... all you wanted to do was believe the media hyped reports... and you used a minority action to represent the whole!

I would say it is a shame, but a reality of war, and an isolated hyped up incident, but you would have none of that back then?

4. April 2009, 11:21:00

Mort

Emne: Re: Perhaps Jules lives in a cocoon, or in a housing estate where you don't have to leave.

Bernice:

No, as I said, much more important things then the G20 and the news this week.

4. April 2009, 11:15:48

Mort

Emne: Re:

Artful Dodger:

... they were using high level CCTV throughout.

4. April 2009, 11:15:08

Mort

Emne: Re:1 arrest is to many

Snoopy: In any protest there will be elements that want to cause trouble. The minority do not represent us or show us up, they just show that there are elements in the UK just like the rest of the world. A shame, but just reality.

4. April 2009, 11:11:43

Mort

Emne: Re: Nahhhh mostly peaceful protesters

Bernice: I missed that one then.... The G20 and news has not been a high priority this week for me. Many, many other things that needed my attention, which were way more important.

4. April 2009, 05:15:26

Emne: Re:

Bernice:leave it to czuch to set me straight

4. April 2009, 05:07:37

Emne: Re:

Czuch:good point. I was going to suggest that if Jules lives in a cocoon then he'll be emerging as a butterfly soon.

4. April 2009, 05:06:09

Emne: Re:

Czuch: agreed

4. April 2009, 05:01:48

Emne: Re:

GoodTimeCharlie:I agree. Ive seen that very thing in the states. Some would even travel to a "local" protest.

4. April 2009, 04:36:38

Czuch

Emne: Re:

Artful Dodger: Well, when the person is part of the issue, what then?

I get accused of turning a blind eye or for not being fully aware... that doesnt offend me, it may even be true

Jules (thats who you are referring to right?)
He will make claims sometimes, where I see it as exaggerated or mislead or whatever, and now he is the one with the shoe on the other foot, trying to protect something that most of us find unprotectable, saying that the reports are not accurate and such, dont believe the media hype. But there was a time when he believed it all, and still does....

4. April 2009, 04:35:53

tyyy

Anytime it seems when there are these international summits or political conventions,there is trouble ,no matter where in the world. I saw this in Seattle, and Philadelphia some years ago.There are professional agitator or protest groups, like the Ruckus org. that actually advertise and will pay for help in that particular city where an event is going on

4. April 2009, 02:59:23

I feel the need to remind the group to remember to address only the issues, not the person. Some addressing of a person can be harmless, but just remember not to carry such things too far. It's easy to offend in forums like these. I know I've done my share of that. ;)

4. April 2009, 02:54:28

V: much of what happens in the world is a matter of perspective but from what I've seen on TV, it's pretty nasty when a crowd destroys the property of innocent people just to make a political statement. Civil unrest is fine but violence isn't. Protest are fine but when you attack the police with the intention to provoke them, then you have a mob. And the number of arrests don't necessairly reflect the level of violence. It may be an indicator, but even so, over 100 arrested probably means a few hundred more that didn't get caught. The police can do only so much.

4. April 2009, 02:19:07

Emne: Re: Nahhhh mostly peaceful protesters

Bernice: i often wonder if i live in the same country has Jules..lol

4. April 2009, 00:23:07

Emne: Re: Nahhhh mostly peaceful protesters

Snoopy: yes I have read the news and it is a terrible thing when emergency services can't do their job properly.....Perhaps Jules lives in a cocoon, or in a housing estate where you don't have to leave, and all services are provided thence cutting off the rest of the world....*shrugs*

I also read where one of the main instigators was an anthropology professor.....helloooooo......I thought it was "no brains, no sense" but not in this case LOL

3. April 2009, 23:51:51

Emne: Re: Nahhhh mostly peaceful protesters

Bernice: sadly its common on the streets of the UK
to have the emergency services pelted with stones esp the ambulance and fire services

and theres still alot of areas that ambulance personel will not go into unless they have a police escort

3. April 2009, 23:41:35

Emne: Re:1 arrest is to many

Tilpasset af Snoopy (4. April 2009, 00:59:25)

(V): im sorry but your saying only 122 arrests were made has if it was a good thing

there was an element that was hell bend on causing real trouble
it once again shows us up to the rest of the world

3. April 2009, 23:05:01

Emne: Re: Nahhhh mostly peaceful protesters

(V): read the news boy.....
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090401/tuk-man-dies-during-g20-violence-dba1618.html

http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2009/04/02/64901_todays-news.html

he may have died of a heart attack but it was the violence and upheaval they think caused it. and for the protesters to throw rocks etc at police while they are trying to resuscitate the poor fellow....I agree with Snoopy Im afraid....disgraceful it is

3. April 2009, 09:28:27

Mort

Emne: Re: Thoughts on this?

Artful Dodger: Israel wanting to get all warlike again

...... It speaks to me of unresolved anger issues. I think they should get help

It also makes me wonder how many strings are being pulled and by whom? Just a niggle, but my niggle sense is good.

3. April 2009, 09:14:45

Mort

Emne: Re: Nahhhh mostly peaceful protesters

Tilpasset af Mort (3. April 2009, 09:21:29)

Bernice: ... Well that is news reporting. As one news anchorman said "good news is not good news".

Of course they are going to show the bad bits more... duhhhhh, but over the G20 summit only 122 arrests have been made.

The BBC say... "a little of it intensely violent - but most of it overwhelmingly peaceful and benign."

And no deaths that I've seen reported. As the old saying goes... don't believe the hype.

2. April 2009, 22:12:21

Emne: Nahhhh mostly peaceful protesters

(V): Good lord....peaceful????/ not from what Ive seen on TV....Blood and guts everywhere and even some killed?

I would hate to live in your neighbourhood if you think that is peaceful........

2. April 2009, 21:33:44

Emne: Re: Thoughts on this?

Pedro Martínez:

2. April 2009, 21:20:58

Pedro Martínez

Emne: Re: Thoughts on this?

Artful Dodger: Shhh! They will ban you for posting names!

2. April 2009, 21:11:23

Emne: Thoughts on this?

Netanyahu to Obama: Stop Iran—Or I Will

2. April 2009, 09:06:16

Mort

Emne: Re: The only ones exempt seems to be civil servants!!

Snoopy: I remember when they were first shown on the BBC

2. April 2009, 09:03:11

Mort

Emne: Re: The only ones exempt seems to be civil servants!!

Czuch: Nahhhh mostly peaceful protesters who the police have even commentated are a good humoured bunch just exercising their right to show their displeasure at the messes recently... amongst other things. Only 87 predicted arrests out of the whole day. Some have been caught and others have been warned that they will get a knock on the door soon. Whether they get all 87.. who knows, but I expect the majority will be caught and prosecuted. It's a shame they have to spoil a good ol' British peaceful demo.

2. April 2009, 08:56:25

Mort

Emne: Re:

ScarletRose: Laid back and desired. That suggests that the inmates are so use to prison they find the order there much easier then the outside world. And just because they are criminals and even killed people doesn't mean that they should be denied basic rights of health. And as for counselling.. I've seen some serial killers when interviewed show more honesty then many politicians. I mean.. to say that you shouldn't be released.. ever, is to me a great thing to admit, to say you know you are not safe and don't want to hurt anyone else!!! And that as you probably are aware that such monsters are created and not born like that has to be considered. And if that person needs help you propose not helping them is not good I feel.

1. April 2009, 23:35:42

Pedro Martínez

Emne: Re: got this in email today LOL

Bernice:

1. April 2009, 19:45:31

vis denne brugers meddelelser | link

Emne: i violence on the streets of London

shame on them

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7977561.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7977489.stm

1. April 2009, 17:25:28

Emne: Re: The only ones exempt seems to be civil servants!!

(V): yes shows i watch to much UK gold ..lol

1. April 2009, 16:36:31

Czuch

Emne: Re: The only ones exempt seems to be civil servants!!

(V): Whats going on over there anyway??? All the anarchists are out in force it seems?

1. April 2009, 16:26:51

ScarletRose

Emne: Re:

Tilpasset af ScarletRose (1. April 2009, 16:27:22)

Bernice: That would be interesting.. most of our prisons in American are laid back and desired... heck! A person can go kill someone then sit on their butt for years to come getting all the medical, dental, counciling, food, shelter, heat and cooling they ever need.. and most times only have to worry about kitchen duty a few times a year..

1. April 2009, 10:07:08

Mort

Emne: Re: The only ones exempt seems to be civil servants!!

Snoopy: Ahhhh are you going back to the wonderful programs "Yes Minister" and "Yes Prime minister"?

1. April 2009, 10:03:26

Mort

Emne: Re: The only ones exempt seems to be civil servants!!

Bernice: Just a remark. Nothing more.

1. April 2009, 08:01:49

Tilpasset af Bernice (1. April 2009, 08:02:48)

tomorrow "National Geographic" is showing a programme called "Guantanemo" has anybody seen it and is it to be believed?

and NO...I'm not getting back into the 9/11 discussion....this show is about americas worst prisons

1. April 2009, 01:58:32

Emne: Re: a lil over the top

Vikings: I like that idea. Voting for the leadership is one thing but voting for just any civil servant would be too much.

1. April 2009, 01:06:58

Emne: Re: a lil over the top

Vikings: well the whole world should be on an even keel then LOL

1. April 2009, 00:56:37

Vikings

Emne: Re: a lil over the top

Bernice: same here, city, county, state and federal

1. April 2009, 00:52:38

Emne: Re: a lil over the top

Vikings: we have SO MANY levels of Govt in australia it is laughable. First off we have local Govt...we vote every 3 years for them....each town has their own local govt. then we have State Govt...we vote every 3-4 years fpr them....each state has their own Govt. and then on top of all that we have Federal Govt. we vote every 4 years for them.

Now you have local laws, state laws and federal laws. and then there are my laws

(in my house anyway LOL)

it is a very confusing system over here....I somehow think UK has something similar, but that is only a guess.

1. April 2009, 00:44:25

Vikings

Emne: Re: a lil over the top

Artful Dodger: We do vote for our sherrifs

1. April 2009, 00:33:13

Emne: Re: a lil over the top

Bernice: Yes, that's what I meant. I think term limits would be a good thing. I think we'd stand to gain more than we'd lose. Sure we'd lose the more experienced ones but those are the ones that seem to do whatever they like regardless of public opinion. And new blood is always good.

As for civil servants, I suspect V was playing on the word "servant" as often service is not what we get from the govt but red tape etc. Many civil servants are simply government loopholes one must jump through. But I agree with you that voting for them would be crazy. ;)

31. Marts 2009, 23:53:20