Play Cloning Gammon for a prize. , this tourney caused Cloning Backgammon to have more than 2500 games running! Is this also the biggest 21-point cubed Gammon tournament?

joshi tm: Well... it's the biggest 21-point cubed cloning Backgammon tourney, for sure!

joshi tm: I signed up for this 21 point per game tournament when the rules allowed for the potential to get 21 or more points in one game. Once the rules of this game changed, the tournament should have been deleted and the started over. Its not fair when the parameters of the game change after someone signs up for it!

I want to get out of this tournament without losing my BKR for this game. Please fencer help me!?!?!?!?!

Czuch Czuckers: Impossible.

Fencer: Nothing is impossible.... but thanks for your quick response!

I am curious why the tournament was allowed to proceed after the rules have changed?

Czuch Czuckers: Because I have allowed it, that's why.

At least, shouldnt there be some way to resign the games in one turn each? As it is cirrently, I only lose 3 points to resign a game. At that rate it can take me a couple of months just to resign my way out of the tournament!

Czuch Czuckers: What's the point of resigning? Why not just play? Unless you were a pawn, how would it hurt?

nivabef: I dont like playing in games or tournaments that will last for decades...

BIG BAD WOLF:
I knew it was to good to be true.LOL I want to use the board for something else. So guess I will have to keep the messages on and continue with the new subject. I can't delete all of them.
To many on there for that. Thanks for answering my question.
BARB

danheg: Thanks, but its 21 points per game, and 9 day moves, i know somepeole it would take a month just to do it the way you say, then they wont believe me, and If I change my mind after all this?

Czuch Czuckers: i dont see your problem resign the first game and when it comes into your message box go to next game of this match and keep resigning them that way
it will of course mean resigning it 7 times to lose 21 points

Czuch Czuckers: do a move or two to determine if they will move fast or not.  at least you can get out of those games faster.

Thanks for the advice everyone!

another question... if I time out of a game, will the whole 21 point match be gone?

Czuch Czuckers: No, i dont think so, just the game u would time out in.

Czuch Czuckers: im sure im right in saying timing out will only lose you 3 points to

here is a 2 game match, where I was up 1 game to 0, then my opponent accepted a draw, to make it 1.5 games to .5 games, but I won the 2 game match anyway????? Is this a bug? Cloning Backgammon (kid_game_2001 vs. Czuch Czuckers)

It's a 2 game match, not a 2 point match

emmett: ahhh! thanks!

so a 2 games match means we play 2 games, not whomever wins two games first?

Czuch Czuckers:

Czuch Czuckers: If the match goes to whomever wins 2 games first, it's called a 2 wins match.

Regarding Fencer's latest posting (on Brainking.info), concerning players from around the world...
It would be interesting to see accurate statistics on where players are actually playing from. Some players say they are from countries that they are actually not from (I always get my hopes up when a player says they are from Tibet). It would be nice, since Fencer is able to, to see one set of accurate statistics showing how many players actually play from their own countries. I know how time-consuming that would be I guess...

why am I seeing smiley faces and arrows where the flag supposed to be beside the persons name

prettymama: Oh dont worry about it, i got this smilie next to peoples names the other day, and my ludo dice are green frogs still lol

mybirthdaysoon: really it's just the english and USA flags

prettymama: have you cleared your cache?

"Snoopy": what is that ?

prettymama: Put all your cash in an envelope and send it to me!

prettymama: Do a refresh/reload with the shift key down. This will ask the browser to fetch every image in the page from the server even if it has them in the cache (memory or disk).
A simple refresh/reload will only get the text, and if the images are incorrectly stored in the cache, they will remain incorrect.

This game will not let me offer a double, it looks like a bug? Cloning Backgammon (Jaak vs. Czuch Czuckers)

Same with this one... Cloning Backgammon (BIG BAD WOLF vs. Czuch Czuckers)

It looks like the problem is that I offered a draw, but I still should be able to offer a double as my turn, but it wont let me?

In response to Fencer's newest post regarding Fischer clocks and games that are set to zero so that they never time out: "If you know how to solve this small problem, please let me know."

We should set a limit on what constitutes an inactive player. If a player doesn't move in any game, for, say, nine months or a year, then we could describe them as inactive. Then, if a player has started a game with no time limit, that game should be forfeited once that player has reached the inactive point.

emmett: What if two friends start a no limit game and they agree that one of them leaves the site for 2 years and when he is back, they finish the game?

If they are friends, I think that they would let a game go unfinished, and in two years, start another. Two years is a long time not to be on brainking! (I'm on every day...) Between friends, one game can be let go, I think.

Besides, the incidences of the problems with people who want the old unfinished games deleted outweigh the number of "two friends two years" scenarios...

Fencer: In my opinion unlimited games should always be unrated, and both of the players should be able to delete them anytime.

Hieronymus: Hmmmm. That sounds interesting.

Fencer: Well, I posted a comment on the blog but now I see it's also being discussed here. My sugestion was to make it so a Delete button displays after one of the players hasn't logged in for a long time (or, now that I think about it, after a move hasn't been played in a long time).
Deleting the game would forfeit it without affecting any of the players BKR, of course.

If they're both friends that will want to resume the game 2 years later, then they won't use the delete button. If it's a game you're stuck with, you can get out of it without any consequences...

Czuch Czuckers: hmm not sure why you cant/couldnt offer the double ... it might have to do something that you cant offer a double on the very first move ? .. i am not sure though .. would have to test that

were you able to offer the double before you offered the draw ?
i think you can remove the draw offer (?) so you can try again ?

Czuch Czuckers: i cant see anyone accepting a draw offer in a prize tournament i thought you were going to resign them all

Hieronymus: sounds like a good idea to me.

Hieronymus: I Can't see why such a game can't be rated. Two people wanting to play without the stress of a time limit may also want to get a ranking, no?
The way I see it, only if you decide to forfeit such a game because of the other player being inactive, should it be considered as unrated.

I usually have my games sorted by "time of last move", descending so that the games most recently played come first. This way I can progress on my games while my opponents are online, making the games faster (and easier to keep them on my mind too).

Whenever a game shows up and I think that I need some more time to think about it, I click the PlayLater button and it doesn't show up again. If in the process I go back to the main page, it's natural the games I decided to play later will come back again.
However, I've noticed that if I take too long playing through my games (usually, when I'm playing from work where I play a couple of games at a time and then go back to work) I noticed that, after some time, the "PlayLater" games come back up again, even if I have some more games that still haven't showed up.

So, what exactly does this button do? Does it just put the games on hold for a while? How long is that while? Could it be configurable? Or is this some sort of bug?

pauloaguia: I agree... i think that if you use the play later option, that game should not come back up on your screen until you select it from your main page. It is very frustrating when you want to avoid playing a few games and they keep popping back up on your screen.

pauloaguia: Of course, if you make no action for 30 minutes, the session expires and when it's automatically recreated after your next click, the session-only data are lost. Since the "play later" data are not persistent (it would make no sense to store them to the database due to their short lifecycle), they are not recreated.

Fencer: I see. I figured it had to be something like that. And since I'm not likely to move at least once every 30 min when I'm at work, I'll have to live with that.
But I'm starting to find more and more attractive the idea someone sugested about being able to flag games to (not) move to at the next turn ;) Would certainly be more usefull that many of those "Move and goto..." options that exist right now (and would have probably avoided creating some of them ;))