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19. mai 2009, 17:17:00
"GERRY" 
Teema: Re: Fencer
Czuch: Maybe we should ask Fencer for a Better Business board & leave the politics out of it because we all know that there are not very good at running a sucessful busniness:))

19. mai 2009, 15:06:47
Czuch 
Teema: Re: Fencer
(V): In the end the losers will be Paypal, as other and 'new' systems are available.

What are you saying??? The free market will work things out for itself???

...thought for sure you would advocate for the government to step in and make the evil paypal pay dearly for their bad business sense! Maybe even take over all online payment systems


Mayber we can move this on to the politics board.... have you explain to me the difference between the evil banks, who need the government to take over, or even your example of intel VS AMD, or online payment services??? How you can say in one breath thatpaypal will be a victome of its own bad business, but cant see that is how it should work for all businesses?

19. mai 2009, 08:57:32
Mort 
Teema: Re: Fencer
Bernice: Well... I can understand when you hit an organisation that denies it's made the mistake. I've been there... only to have them admit two weeks later that they did mess up. But they had annoyed me so much I went and changed to another organisation offering the same service... Turned out better for us as we now get more for our money

19. mai 2009, 04:36:56
Bernice 
Teema: Re: Fencer
(V): Thanks for answering on Fencers behalf.

19. mai 2009, 04:25:53
Mort 
Teema: Re: Fencer
Bernice: Maybe he just doesn't want to go through all the paper work. In the end the losers will be Paypal, as other and 'new' systems are available.

Sometimes it just ain't worth it if an alternative(s) do just as good.

19. mai 2009, 00:58:25
Bernice 
Teema: Re: Fencer
Bernice toimetatud (19. mai 2009, 00:59:02)
Bwild: well I had satisfaction from them.....but the point I was making....Fencer was whingeing about not enough room to explain his predicament on their email page.....is he able to ring someone? everyone apparently can ring, or isnt there a Paypal "office" in the Czech republic?

19. mai 2009, 00:46:55
Bwild 
Teema: Re: Fencer
Bernice: I called them...but the rep (1st one) said to mail everything in.....2 weeks later...they had no record of me sending anything....3 weeks later...rep 3 said still nothing, and I cant revert back to a personal acct.

19. mai 2009, 00:16:33
Bernice 
Teema: Re: Fencer
alexlee: yes mine is current for australia....sydney in fact.

19. mai 2009, 00:15:30
alexlee 
Teema: Re: Fencer
Bernice:
The phone number I had was 1-888-221-1161. I just dialed it and it is still Paypal.

18. mai 2009, 23:13:06
Bernice 
Teema: Fencer
I know it wont probably make any difference as you have already made up your mind.

I had a problem with them and was able to TELEPHONE a representative, and the problem was sorted over the phone.....below is what I get when I click on the "contact us" link.......



PayPal Customer Service:
1800-073-263


6.00 a.m. to 10.00 p.m. Monday to Saturday AEST




Identification preference
To help confirm that you're the account holder when you call, we have the following personal information on file:

Credit card number Change

Would you like to change your identification preference ?

18. mai 2009, 05:05:13
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re:
martes:  No worries.  Thanks for the understanding.  ;)

18. mai 2009, 00:50:07
puupia 
Teema: Re: public friends
Thanks, that tiny lock icon was not something i was looking for :)

18. mai 2009, 00:47:02
Vikings 
Teema: Re: public friends
puupia: on the left side of your page, 5th link under the profile section you will see "Friends", that will send you to the right place

18. mai 2009, 00:46:51
Pedro Martínez 
Teema: Re: public friends
puupia: Go to your Friends list and you'll see a tiny lock next to the name of each of your friends.

18. mai 2009, 00:43:47
puupia 
Teema: public friends
How does one add/request public friends? I just tried to find an option for that but it just does not seem to catch my eye..

17. mai 2009, 23:48:39
Czuch 
Teema: Re:
TheCrazyPuppy: Yeah, I guess you were, sorry, it seemed like you were also adding a bit of salt to the wound along with your "helpfulness", my bad...

17. mai 2009, 23:44:31
Czuch 
Teema: Re:
TheCrazyPuppy: It only upsets me to see supposedly responsible, helpful people, act irresponsibly and unhelpfully...

17. mai 2009, 23:39:00
Czuch 
Teema: Re:
TheCrazyPuppy: you should PM one of the Global Moderators with full details of the issue concerned and copies of all communication so far. The matter will be raised in the Global Moderator Fellowship, discussed and a decision made. The decision is final.


Thats all he needed to hear... the rest is just inflammatory to the situation.... even the most recent shark you posted, how is that helpful to anyone?

17. mai 2009, 23:23:16
"GERRY" 
Teema: Re:
Pedro Martínez: LMAO :)))))

17. mai 2009, 23:22:19
"GERRY" 
Teema: Re:
martes: LOL There is alot of them here Just put them on hide on all your board's & put them on block.I just removed all my blocked user's 5 or 6 day's ago & it start's all over again this time when they get blocked it's forever That is the only way you can enjoy this site & meet some very nice people & enjoy playing games:)))

17. mai 2009, 23:19:13
Pedro Martínez 
Teema: Re:
martes:

17. mai 2009, 23:14:21
Pedro Martínez 
Teema: Re:
martes: It's actually more like a kindergarten. From your part.

17. mai 2009, 22:59:18
Pedro Martínez 
Teema: Re:
Pedro Martínez toimetatud (17. mai 2009, 22:59:37)
martes: No, I didn't. I just saw your name here and thought it would be cool to reply. I didn't even read the one I'm replying to.

17. mai 2009, 22:56:11
Bernice 
Teema: Re:
Pedro Martínez: ROFL

17. mai 2009, 22:54:49
Pedro Martínez 
Teema: Re:
martes: Impartial? A moderator is supposed to be impartial? How did you come to that conclusion? Did you read the User Agreement at all?

17. mai 2009, 22:50:15
"GERRY" 
Teema: Re:
martes: First put him on block & we can go from there

17. mai 2009, 22:47:43
Czuch 
Teema: Re:
martes: .... be specific please?

17. mai 2009, 19:27:58
"GERRY" 
"GERRY" toimetatud (17. mai 2009, 19:29:31)
Pay Pal is gone from this site.It is not the end of the world.So let's all enjoy this SITE that Fencer is providing for all of us:)))

17. mai 2009, 13:31:25
Bwild 
Teema: Re: PayPal Issues
Fencer: same thing happened to me when I tried to upgrade my paypal from personal to a business acct. since I cannot seem to upload a clear enough image of the required documentation, faxing is not their option, mailings never are recieved, my account is now in limbo....they will accept money on my behalf....but I cant get any out!
so I am at least relieved its not just me.

17. mai 2009, 10:33:21
gogul 
Teema: Re:
Foxy Lady: Foxy fuzzy feelings, anytime

17. mai 2009, 06:33:06
Foxy Lady 
Teema: Re:
gogul: Do you serve ?

16. mai 2009, 23:24:07
Czuch 
Teema: Re:
gogul: Salt n Vinegar?

16. mai 2009, 23:05:51
gogul 
Who's interested in chips?

16. mai 2009, 23:05:10
gogul 
Teema: Re:
Pedro Martínez: I offer to make it for nothing, just taking your chips

16. mai 2009, 22:33:01
Czuch 
Teema: Re:
"GERRY": okay... $4.75 for me

16. mai 2009, 19:29:08
"GERRY" 
Teema: Re:
Pedro Martínez: LOL i think I'll wait for a cheaper rate boy's:)))

16. mai 2009, 19:21:54
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re:
Pedro Martínez

16. mai 2009, 19:17:53
Pedro Martínez 
Teema: Re:
Artful Dodger:
I charge 4.90 though.

16. mai 2009, 19:10:04
Papa Zoom 
There is a simple solution to the Pay Pal problem.  Everyone that wants to use paypal just sends the money to me (plus a 5 us dollar handling fee) and I'll make the payment via one of the other BK payment options.  :)  But I'll probably get a letter from Pay Pal asking what business I'm involved in. 

16. mai 2009, 19:05:05
"GERRY" 
Teema: SKILL
This is just a opinion.If a player is that good or that lucky.What are they doing playing board games on a non gambling game site When they can go to sites or real live tournaments That do pay real money to win .Or is it just the glory of being # 1

16. mai 2009, 18:11:48
Fencer 
Teema: Re: PayPal Issues
AbigailII: It's not about prize tournaments. What they say (and don't want to discuss about it) is they have to make a payment to play these games, which is simply not true. Prize tournaments are optional. If you make some features restricted to paying members only, it does not mean that it supports their distorted opinion (or can a bureaucrat even have own opinion?).

By the way, PayPal is playing it safe? That's very unlikely. First of all, they admit that games of chance are not a problem but games of skill are. We have games of skill here since the very beginning of BrainKing, why hadn't they bothered me with it 3 years ago, for instance? Second, my account belongs to PayPal Europe, it has nothing to do with U.S. gambling regulations or how they call this nonsense.

It is not a good attitude to find a logic in it. Good thing is that we don't actually need them because about 70% of our income comes through other online payment gateways or wire transfers. But people should know about it before they start to defend PayPal.

16. mai 2009, 17:54:12
"GERRY" 
"GERRY" toimetatud (16. mai 2009, 18:43:56)
It's to bad because this is a great site.But i am not paying anybody on the internet money other then by PayPal

16. mai 2009, 17:51:22
SL-Mark 
Teema: Paypal gambling policy
The PayPal gambling policy:
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/use/index_frame-outside&ed=gambling


PayPal are having to pay out big time in various law suits. Two examples below:
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-954672.html

http://www.dmnews.com/PayPal-Pays-10M-to-Settle-Online-Gambling-Case/article/81600/


So, they are being ultra cautious now.

16. mai 2009, 17:37:54
pauloaguia 
Teema: Re: PayPal Issues
pauloaguia toimetatud (16. mai 2009, 17:38:46)
AbigailII: Prize tournaments can just as easilly be restricted to non-paying members only. In fact, many are... I bought a subscription and can't enter many prize tournaments because of that
You don't buy a subscription with BK to win more money, but to play more games at once, take more vacation days, etc.

That said, I aggree with everything else you said...

16. mai 2009, 17:12:06
AbigailII 
Teema: Re: PayPal Issues
Considering that there are prize tournaments, and that prize tournaments can be restricted to paying members only, there's some shred of truth about paying money to play games of skill for money. Although PayPal's emails are most likely triggered by the existence of Poker, and possibly the links to other pay sites from the front page.

I can understand why PayPal is playing it safe. BK probably doesn't make enough money for PayPal to spend a lot of time investigating what exactly it does (and doesn't). I can also understand why BK is dropping PayPal.

16. mai 2009, 16:29:06
Vikings 
Teema: Re: PayPal Issues

16. mai 2009, 16:24:41
"GERRY" 
Teema: Re: PayPal Issues
Fencer: Where do i go to read this post?

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