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4. oktoober 2007, 20:33:02
Dolittle 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Jim Dandy: Maybe she decided she don't like the carpet!!

4. oktoober 2007, 21:19:00
anastasia 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Jim Dandy: What does the vet say???

4. oktoober 2007, 22:07:27
The Col 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
anastasia: I booked an appt for Sunday afternoon,it may come down to a shrink,but I'll have her checked out from stem to stern again

4. oktoober 2007, 23:28:07
Ewe 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Jim Dandy: I had my cat all checked out too at the vets when she was doing it, but physically she was absolutely fine! I think its got to be psychological but I havent a clue what could cause it, I even looked for info on the net & found nothing of great use. She was generally a very happy playful & extremely loving character.
Can I ask what 'brang up' is as you mentioned?
Does she have regular spots she uses or is it just random? My cat once even pooed in the plug hole of the bath!!! What the heck is that all about???
My cat was originally a rescue, I never knew if she had had kittens but she was very motherly to all other animals & people, I got to thinking she was pineing for kittens & got a mental problem over that which manefested itself in her behaviour...but thats just a guess.

4. oktoober 2007, 23:48:12
The Col 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Ewe: Jennifer was originally adopted by my gf from the humane society,both our girls were.Jenn had got into a fight with a racoon and had to have some surgery,a chunk of her ear is missing,and she has some scaring around her mouth.The prior owner never bothered to pick her up(sweet guy)She had never had this issue prior to the last few years.She was pooing on our hallway carpet,so we removed it,that just led her to find another carpet.The puking is based on her habit of eating too fast(in my opinion)so maybe this is a psychological thing.She is a very loving little girl,other than this issue she has no strange quirks

4. oktoober 2007, 23:58:02
Ewe 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Jim Dandy: Yes both of mine were/are rescues too. So things in common are...
*previous ill treatment
*age/ pooing on carpets didnt start until after a few years
*loving & normal behaviour otherwise

It really does sound more psychological

I hope your vet is more helpful about it than mine. Although mine did recommend some excellent enzyme spray which killed any smell/stain left on carpets or wood floors.

5. oktoober 2007, 00:04:48
The Col 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Ewe: so you never tried the psychologist?

5. oktoober 2007, 00:34:28
Ewe 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Jim Dandy: for me or my cat?
I think I needed it more....she was happy about the pooing but I wasnt!!

No I dont know of any cat psychologists...is that what you are going to do for yours? Do you know of a cat psychologist? 

5. oktoober 2007, 00:43:03
Ewe 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Tuesday: I agree whole heartadly(sp?) with you!! A dog on antidepressants, rediculous!!!
As for the t'shirt...hmmm lol

5. oktoober 2007, 00:54:05
Ewe 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Tuesday: lemongrass/citronella or a weak solution of eucyliptus(cant spell tonight Im tired lol) oil can repell fleas but doesnt kill them

5. oktoober 2007, 01:44:33
Rose 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Tuesday: One of my cats is soo stresssed out that the doc gave us cat prozac ( in a tuna chew tab) we are anti drugs so I really didnt want to give them to her but her body is breaking down due to the stress. we gave them to her for 3 days.. and Ive stopped. I dont like how glassy eyed she looks and shes lethargic.. I have her quarantined in my bedroom with her own toys, food, water and litter. The tv is on thru the day for her.. and shes got much less stress. I realize she was stressing over the other cats in the house.. shes perfectly happy away from all the other cats.. Poor puddums. Once I get her all well and back to normal i guess I will have to find her a new home with people who have no other cats.. sigh... Shes a beauty and so good with people. I will miss her.

5. oktoober 2007, 02:12:23
wetware 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips

Jim Dandy: Some other factors and ideas...but no guaranteed solutions, I'm sorry to say.


I've been through this (well, not quite through yet) with one of my


Some ideas I've read (and some that I've tried):


Offering various kinds of litter.  Their textures vary a great deal, and some cats sure can be fussy, can't they?  Wow...box styles vary greatly, as well.  One of my girls can't stand those enclosed ones.  Another likes the enclosed style that's entered from the top!


Cleanliness of the litter box.  One vet insists upon this.  I usually only manage cleaning once per day; some insist on doing so even more frequently than that.


Number of boxes available.  One vet suggests a formula: have (n+1) boxes in the house, where n=the number of cats you have.


One of my girls seems to lie in wait in the middle of a narrow hallway that needed to be passed to get to the usual litter box.  Like some kind of troll one planning an ambush.  I think the girl with "the problem" was sometimes just steering clear of a showdown.


Large sheets of tinfoil placed on areas where the dirty deeds have tended to happen.  (I placed these across half of my bed for a couple of months.  My newest  was peeing there!  At least she's gotten over that problem.  So my bedroom's foil bedspread won't be featured in House Beautiful; no big deal.)


If you can be stealthy and patient, have some idea when it happens, and have good aim with a water pistol, catch your little darling in the act and shoot from a bit of a distance.  I think the idea is to get him/her to associate the unpleasant spray with their activity--but not associate it with YOU being angry.  Don't be yelling...or anything worse...when this takes place.  You've already got one problem to deal with.


5. oktoober 2007, 04:16:04
Papa Zoom 

5. oktoober 2007, 07:06:10
The Col 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Ewe: noo foolin,they call them "behavioral therapists" or something fancy shmancy like that,no,I was speaking of your poopy cat


wetware: Yes,did the litter thing,we now have one in both washrooms.I'm amazed to see that the "ambush in the hall" is not uncommon,Molly would do it all the time,Jenn would come out looking like she was facing the executioner nightly,though with two escape routes the issue isn't what it once was.I do find the tin foil idea interesting,but she always seems to drop her gifts in high traffic areas,we'd be stomping on it all the time.Thank God she doesn't pee,that would take this situation up a notch.

5. oktoober 2007, 13:36:31
Ewe 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Rose: Aww  poor kitty! I hope you get her settled & rehomed soon, ewww having to have a litter tray in your bedroom!

5. oktoober 2007, 13:37:28
Ewe 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
wetware: some great tips there! I think I did all of that apart from the foil thing.

5. oktoober 2007, 14:59:24
Rose 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips
Rose toimetatud (5. oktoober 2007, 14:59:41)
Ewe: ya it isnt ideal but I keep it really clean and also she isnt voiding much so there is no real issue. She isnt eating very much so there is next to no waste. I think the drugs were effecting her appetite too. Shes a really large cat so no issues with her losing a pound or two anyway.

wetware. Very sound advice. We had a cat who peed on our bed at one time. Talk about constant washer and dryer going. We used to put plastic on the bed but she just peed on that. I didnt think to use foil. They hate the sound and feel of that. If I ever have that issue again I will try that..
I found that keeping the box extra clean encourages frequent use. Cats do not like stinky boxes. In my house it is a part time job cleaning all 4 boxes 4 or 5 times a day but well worth it.  Keeping boxes in private areas helps promote frequent use as well. I have one friend in a bachelor apartment that put up a chinese screen around her cat's box so the cat has privacy! LOL

The things we do and put up with for our fur babies.


6. oktoober 2007, 02:16:13
wetware 
Teema: Do you look like your dog?

(I can't believe this link still works after several years!)



So...do you look like your dog?        http://www.dogdaysproductions.com/lookalike01.html


6. oktoober 2007, 04:26:15
Dolittle 
Teema: Re: Do you look like your dog?
Dolittle toimetatud (6. oktoober 2007, 04:27:20)
wetware: I remember getting that emailed to me. They really do look like their dog!!!

Thanks for posting that, it was worth another look!

6. oktoober 2007, 04:27:55
Papa Zoom 

8. oktoober 2007, 18:42:26
srnity 
Teema: Re:
Tuesday: Poor, poor Willie Wade (may he rest in peace, messy or not) - THIS is why I'm a dog person - why DO domestic cats have to kill things anyway? I've had TWO rescued rabbits killed by neighborhood cats in my yard & they actually waited for the dog to not be there both times to attack (and they were both REALLY sweet older rabbits)

8. oktoober 2007, 19:50:32
Ewe 
Teema: Re:
Tuesday: OMG Im so sorry to hear that! You must be heart broken! What a terrible thing to of happened! You do a good turn & rescue the cats only for it to be disasterous to your bird....I really am sorry....its touched a nerve with me because I had a cockateil attacked by a cat & she later died....I was devastated

8. oktoober 2007, 19:55:00
Ewe 
Teema: Re:
Ewe toimetatud (8. oktoober 2007, 19:57:48)
srnity: Thats upsetting about the rabbits too....Cats unfortunately just have hunting in their nature...and excellent hunters they are too! Im not sure all of them are as preditorial though...my last cat just loved all other animals & used to mother them...this included my cockateil I just mentioned & a chinchilla! In all the years I had here I never once saw her even stalk another animal, let alone attack or kill it. My cat I still have now is different though, shes forever hunting & killing small furry things.

edited to just add.....anyone with a cat who doesnt want them to kill things (like me) can try making sure your cat has a collar with a bell on...its enough to warn birds atleast

8. oktoober 2007, 23:22:33
srnity 
Teema: Re:my last cat just loved all other animals & used to mother them...
Ewe: Now THAT'S a cat I could love & I do think they're beautiful animals, just wish they weren't such hunters, I guess

9. oktoober 2007, 01:14:54
wetware 
Teema: For the Poetry Forum instead?

The Karma of Cats


The judgment of cats is at hand:
how neatly God has arraigned them!


You there, my silken mistress,
how many dead birds must we put
to your credit?  And you, the rangy tomcat
with cauliflower ears and a nose
that's seen better days,
whatever became of those goldfish when
your people were gone for a week?
Oh, how the cries of field mice,
slaughtered in thousands, rise up against you!
Where will you turn?
Where will you turn?  Even now
the furnace of wrath glows hot
for vengeance against your sins.


But Lord, they cry, purring and mewing,
Lord!  with plaintive uplifted faces,
we did not know, we could not help it!
It was our nature to kill soft things,
shining things, whatever would move,
whatever ran from before us!


Well, says the Lord, you may plead
and pray, and say with some justice
that you could not help it, that it was your nature,
but the surprise is, my children,
you're no less accountable
for that!


[Gail White]


9. oktoober 2007, 15:08:34
anastasia 
Teema: Damien's show results

 Show went well...he got a "G" rating with high possibility of "SG" in his future...so,I will get his title and reshow him in a few years.We had a great time this weekend too!! There was a race for the dogs...Niki won her puppy division,lol.....she has her Mommies speed that's for sure.


 Now I have to focus on getting him ready for his November trials.I decided NOT to run him in the AD as it was in the mid 80's and much to hot for him to run any distance..I will run it with him in November.


9. oktoober 2007, 17:14:51
srnity 
Teema: Re: For the Poetry Forum instead?
wetware: Ahhhhhhhhhh But God loves us no matter what our faults and failings - I'm pretty sure all cats go to Heaven too

9. oktoober 2007, 17:17:18
srnity 
Teema: Re: Damien's show results
anastasia: Congrats to Damien & to Niki too

10. oktoober 2007, 01:31:23
Rose 
Teema: Re:
Tuesday:  Ive heard that dog food is not good for cats.. Too harsh on the system. What about putting their food up high so the dog cant reach? A counter top or even on top of the fridge. Every one of mine can get on top of the fridge...

10. oktoober 2007, 01:43:24
srnity 
Teema: Re:
Tuesday: I think Rose is right on the money with that one - I had an older ferret who was on a really special diet and dry cat food was his main food (easy to eat/digest), but three different Vets (he was sickly and spent alot of time at the docs office) told me never to give him dog food, even the all-natural stuff cause his system couldn't break it down. I used to put some dry cat food mixed in the dog's food and that kept the dog out of the ferrets food dish. Even tho the ferret's passed on, I still give the dog some cat food mixed in, I think she's more of a chicken/fish dog then redmeat

10. oktoober 2007, 23:23:09
srnity 
Teema: Re:
Tuesday: What a good dog And smart too

11. oktoober 2007, 02:18:00
The Col 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips Update
wetware: It looks like we are finally narrowing down the problem.Either Lymphoma(we pray not,and I doubt it by recounting her syptoms) or Irrittable bowel syndrome.The biopsy is very expensive but thankfully our insurance will cover it.

11. oktoober 2007, 02:32:39
wetware 
Teema: Re: Does anyone have any tips Update

Jim Dandy: Best of luck to both of you.  And keep us posted.


My youngest and I paid a visit to the kitty cardiologist today.  Some insurance coverage might have been helpful!  But she's really okay--nothing wrong that couldn't be explained by her heart beating at about 240 bpm when we visit the vet.  She's just an excitable girl...but a surprisingly good patient.  Now that we've both had ultrasound, we know my murmur's worse than hers.


11. oktoober 2007, 04:05:26
Dolittle 
Nightline tonight is going to be about pets and treating them!!

11. oktoober 2007, 04:29:21
anastasia 
Teema: hope the link works

11. oktoober 2007, 04:32:14
anastasia 
Teema: one more

http://www.mytrialphotos.com/2007MERConf/09-18to24MonthMale/slides/071006-0757.html


Sorry,lol..I am a proud mommy and want to show them off!!


11. oktoober 2007, 04:58:48
wetware 
Teema: Yes...the links work
anastasia: My, how handsome!  And that tongue--as long as a giraffe's, I think.    :-)

11. oktoober 2007, 15:42:45
anastasia 
Teema: Re: Yes...the links work
wetware: everyone calls them lolly-tounges...the hotter the GSD gets,the fatter the tounge gets,LMAO!!

11. oktoober 2007, 21:39:56
Ewe 
Teema: Re: Yes...the links work
anastasia: Fantastic pics!!!!!

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