Yes SLAYER, I learnt how to play Spiderline4, & to get to 2700 pts, by beating you, Master! ;) lol! I learnt the game by wanting to know why I got beat by better players...Also I expanded these games with my own ideas & also looked at other peoples ideas too...its all about learning it then expanding it.

Anyway, what is this 'white is always a forced win' rubbish? If you play me, then my black is near always a forced win too! What Im trying to say is that yes, white has the advantage BUT only if you know how to win with white against a certain black, and conversely the player does NOT know how to play a good black! To me black can just take longer to win thats all, and therefore there is no advantage, unless however, I play the very top players!...but I would say out of a lot of very top players Ive played over ther years, there are ONLY about 3 or maybe 4 players who have 'mastered' the white & can always win every time, but sometimes they dont! lol! ;)

Yeah I find it a little easier playing black

Thanks :)

If you had 2 top linetris players evenly matched, then who has the advantage, is it white or black?

yeh hexagons, pentagons, octagons or whatever seems to work. It will be an intresting concept

Geez! Sounds crazy!! I would be absolutely gutted if a line just totally disappeared after spending hard work building up a win! lol! Just the thought of trying to work out the new moves Spider Linetris would create is hurting my head! lol! Sounds good though, maybe worth trying, as one line disappearing could turn a game completely on its head!

How about changing the square shape board to a Spiders Web shape! As BBW said, 12x12, & Web shaped would be cool. Have the middle space reserved for a spider there..and call the spider SPIDERM4TT!! lol :-)

Well me and my brother(rahvin666) are currently trying out Spider line5 (or Stack 5x5) on a five in a line board now here at BK! We are only playing up to the letter J, which makes it a 10x10 board for starters. My first impressions so far of this is that its a bit to slow in starting, not much excitement, BUT as more moves are layed down, the thinking then starts!...see how it goes for now.

Kevin, how about the 'free space' move goes to black only and they can use it at any point during the game.

e.g. If white starts D1 then moves over to A4 on second move, then black could go for the prime sqaure, which would be D4! Hence it would be 'free in space'...or black could use it later in the game if you can see a white winning set up!...or you could vary this by white having 2 free space moves with black having 3! white then would not be such as an advantage(I dont think it is anyway in normal 4x4, but weve already had that debate, SLAYER? lol)

Can anyone think of any Spider line4 variations? like maybe have a 'free space' move per game in any square you like, or have a different shaped board, like a spiders web shape? or Spider line5(five) would be very interesting, & extremly hard to achieve! this could be for the advanced players maybe?

lol, yes your right its not arrogance, its just my silly English humour, as Stefan knows, sorry! just wanted to see if anyone could give me some tips, Stefan? ;-)

How do you play Spider line4, does anyone know? ;)