Bernice:   Yes, that's what I meant.  I think term limits would be a good thing.   I think we'd stand to gain more than we'd lose.  Sure we'd lose the more experienced ones but those are the ones that seem to do whatever they like regardless of public opinion.   And new blood is always good.

As for civil servants, I suspect V was playing on the word "servant" as often service is not what we get from the govt but red tape etc.  Many civil servants are simply government loopholes one must jump through.  But I agree with you that voting for them would be crazy.  ;)

(V):   Do you mean an investigation of the events leading up to the war in Iraq?  If a trustworthy investigation could be conducted, I wouldn't oppose that.  But what can be accomplished by it?

I'd rather see a complete revamping of the US's foreign policy with respect to military presence in other countries.  We have plenty of probems on our own soil and ought to be attending to those first.  I don't know what a good Foreign policy would look like but I think we can do much better. 

Artful Dodger: I just wrote a long post in response to you & Czuch, which I lost by accident while trying to copy before posting a preview...and I don't have the time or inclination to rewrite it.

Suffice to say, I don't need medicine, you do. I stand by the accuracy of the Bush quote. And I stand by the broader arguments I made, which really are the issue. And I ignore Czuch because he is a socialist who claims to be anti-socialist while embracing Rebublican socialism & railing against Democratic socialism....therefore most of his posts are not rational enough to deserve commentary.

Now I must say good night and return to the book I am reading, "The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve," G. Edward Griffin. I am reading this book because I seek further enlightenment from well-informed individuals (like Griffin) who have something to teach....so that I can better understand the world I live in and perhaps know better how to resist the New World Order.

Nite, gentlemen. :o)

keep the guidelines in mind from now on.  It will be important for your future posts.