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12. detsember 2004, 20:34:08
frolind 
Teema: Team tournament
Any teams got an available spot for me?

11. detsember 2004, 07:39:12
coan.net 
Someone (CurbYourEnthus) made 2 accounts - played 25 games of backgammon race, played the 3-4 moves to get a rating, and moved to the top of the rating list. Back in October, it was mentioned to Fencer - and Fencer banned all the accounts involved. I believe Fencer was going to remove this person from the ratings list, but either forgot or has not gotten to it yet.

11. detsember 2004, 07:09:23
ILOVENIRVANA 
Teema: Who was banned from here?
I missed Fencer's announcement.

10. detsember 2004, 17:56:22
Origami 
Teema: Re:
do you think that the changes in games
"rythm", I describe below ,would add anything good for the backgammon race ?
here they are:
1. the is no need to collect all the men in my home area in order to bear them off. Player can start bearing them off anytime he wishes.
2. In order to bear of the player need to throw
exact number of pips ...
I am curious what is your opinion on that.
Origami.

10. detsember 2004, 15:59:13
Hrqls 
*nod*

although it might be quite rude to send the pieces back to the bar .. maybe just dont allow that move .. but that might give away too much info when you know the dices ..

the dices need to be in the history, without the moves

while typing this i think i like the idea of being sent back to the bar ;)

10. detsember 2004, 15:57:26
coan.net 
Teema: Re: dark backgammon
I suggested something like this at some time... somewhere.

Basicly my thoughts are you can see your opponents dice, and that is about it.

Basicly played just like regular backgammon, with this additional rule:

If you move one (or more) of your pieces to a space which has 2 or more of your opponenets pieces, YOUR pieces get sent back to the bar. (Since you can't see your opponents pieces, this is a possibility)

I think it would be fun with regular backgammon, but I think it would be even more fun as Dark Backgammon Race.

10. detsember 2004, 15:40:21
Hrqls 
Teema: dark backgammon
as most games on here seem to have a dark variant .. what about dark backgammon ?

you wont be able to see the opponents pieces.
maybe you would be able to your opponents dices or points/pips .. or maybe not even those

any thoughts ? :)

10. detsember 2004, 12:29:27
Hrqls 
*nod* ok :)

thanks

10. detsember 2004, 12:14:37
Vikings 
Vikings toimetatud (10. detsember 2004, 12:15:49)
it doesn't, Fencer announced it, I m sure the opponent is banned as well since it is his 2nd. nic. He said it is on the do do list, but must be low priority

10. detsember 2004, 11:06:56
Hrqls 
where does it say when a player is banned ?

is the opponent banned as well ?

will banned players be removed from the rating list ?

10. detsember 2004, 04:26:12
Vikings 
the only time I speed as you call it is when I get double 5's or 6's early on, and then I rarely ever go past 13, as far as leaving uncovered players in the 7-12 spot, it depends where in the 13-18 spot my opponent is, of course I will sometimes try to goat him to take me with a single player, if I am set up to take him back no matter what, gainging a pip advantage. Then theres the question, How many players do I bear on before advancing? and also How do I adjust to my opponents style? No single right way but many wrong ones.

10. detsember 2004, 03:30:21
Origami 
Teema: Re:
thanks, but there must be something more to it.
let's look at the first 12 points for the player.
I am never afraid of leaving blot on them. When hit I will easily recover but the opponent may lose much more points ... and how about speeding
with the first few moves to get beyond the 12th point and ruin someone's possible wall ?
Origami.

10. detsember 2004, 03:11:43
Vikings 
he he he, lets just say, generally, build a wall, where and how just depends on the mathematics of the pip count

10. detsember 2004, 03:06:15
Origami 
Teema: Re:
but in the long game luck hits evenly both the players, so what counts is just skill ... could you share with the the third strategy ... I have some ideas, but would like to hear from you ...
Origami.

10. detsember 2004, 02:59:23
Vikings 
its acey-duecy without the luck of the opening doubles required. I have seen 3 basic strategies, one never works, one works only if you get good rolls, and the other works most of the time unless you come up against someone with the same startegy

10. detsember 2004, 02:56:28
Origami 
Teema: Re:
gosh ... there is no limit to people's inventions. by the way, don't you think backagammon race requires more skill ?
This is a longer game and it's possible to recover out of bad luck ... they say, the longer the game (like Gin , CRibbage or Dominoes)the more chances are on the better player.
Origami.

10. detsember 2004, 02:51:15
Vikings 
check out his profile, and click on show games

10. detsember 2004, 02:50:36
Vikings 
he created a 2nd account and played all 25 games against that account, then after 3 moves he forfeited all 25 games in the other acount, thus 25 wins

10. detsember 2004, 02:45:35
Origami 
Teema: Re:
I am too simple to even understand this kind of situation. How is it possible ? You have your dice you have to follow ... I am not getting it.
Origami.

10. detsember 2004, 02:35:16
Vikings 
he has been banned for cheating

10. detsember 2004, 02:29:45
Origami 
Teema: Game of skill ?
By looking at CurbYourEnthus results (25 games and 25 wins) I am comming into conclusion that it must be a game of skill. It is estimated that backagammon is 25 percent game of skill and 75 percent is luck factor. In Bakgammon Race this relation should be reversed, at least.
What is your opinion ?
Origami.

4. detsember 2004, 07:13:22
ScarletRose 
Teema: Re: cut paste re an idea from steve..
I like that Nobleheart.. that would be a kewl version.. ;)

1. detsember 2004, 10:36:10
Hrqls 
you can look in the 'waiting games' (link in the menu on the left side of your screen) or create a waiting game yourself

you can also invite me, i will accept :)

27. november 2004, 22:00:50
sLaMdAnCe 
anyone 4 a play now BG game?

26. november 2004, 12:51:22
Hrqls 
Hrqls toimetatud (26. november 2004, 12:53:33)
lol

i made myself check some matches i played ... the first match i checked already showed white passing on the first move indeed

quite funny then that in most matches white seems to win the games (even though its another playing with white all the time :))

26. november 2004, 12:07:30
Vikings 
white always starts, but he may have to pass

26. november 2004, 11:13:22
Hrqls 
*nod* white alternates .. but will the dices still decide who starts or will white always start ?

26. november 2004, 10:21:08
skipinnz 
Teema: Re:
You will find that white alternates for each game

26. november 2004, 10:08:28
Luke Skywalker 
Teema: Re: pass
thanks again. These things are not explained in the rules (or I didn't read them carefully enough)

26. november 2004, 10:08:07
Hrqls 
are the dices used to determine the one who starts in multiple game matches as well ?

i forgot to check .. but in most of my bg matches white seems to win most of the games :)

26. november 2004, 09:58:56
skipinnz 
Teema: Re: pass
Luke what dice you see on your first turn are what was rolled, if he has passed then he must have rolled the lower dice.

26. november 2004, 09:10:21
Luke Skywalker 
Teema: pass
ok, thanks. Are these first dice rolls visible anywhere?

26. november 2004, 09:07:29
coan.net 
The only time a person passes is on the first roll - and that is only if they lose the roll. (That is each player rolls 1 dice - high dice goes first, so if your opponenet gets the lowest dice, they have to "Pass" to you so you can start.)

26. november 2004, 09:05:41
Luke Skywalker 
Teema: pass
How is it possible to pass a move? I didn't find a button for it. In game http://brainking.com/game/ShowGame?g=537998
my opponent passed on his first move, I have the same dice values and cannot pass?

25. november 2004, 14:46:07
frolind 
Teema: Re:

25. november 2004, 14:37:43
Hrqls 
whats 'shogi' ?

25. november 2004, 14:30:43
frolind 
Teema: Re: ClayNashvilleTN trying to get his score to 2000
There's gnuchess, gnugo, gnushogi, etc. But I don't know anything about them.
http://directory.fsf.org/games/

25. november 2004, 14:21:32
ClayNashvilleTN 
Teema: Re: ClayNashvilleTN trying to get his score to 2000
Thank you so very much! Do they have training aids for other games as well?

25. november 2004, 13:47:59
frolind 
Teema: Re: ClayNashvilleTN trying to get his score to 2000
Look at some commented matches:
http://www.gammonline.com/demo/match/index.html
http://www.bkgm.com/matches.html

Download gnubg and train against it. If you'd like it will also analyse your moves as you play them (tutor mode), or afterwards. And you can ask it for hints. You'll find it here:
http://www.gnubg.org
Make sure you set up a decent strength for the player and for the analysis. More info about that here:
http://www.bkgm.com/gnu/AllAboutGNU.html

23. november 2004, 16:26:39
ClayNashvilleTN 
HMMMMMMMMMMM Intresting suggestion! ;) hehehehehe

23. november 2004, 16:20:24
coan.net 
win more game

23. november 2004, 16:18:56
ClayNashvilleTN 
I am trying to get my score to 2000..........Any one got any suggestions?

23. november 2004, 13:33:01
CurrentRiver 
Teema: Re: Is it just me,
Hello Rooster......That has happened to me also...not just lately but in the past.

23. november 2004, 02:37:21
sLaMdAnCe 
Teema: Re: Is it just me,
Not in my case,lol!

23. november 2004, 02:33:39
skipinnz 
Teema: Re: Is it just me,
Nah can't be the beer, that only makes you see doubles lol

23. november 2004, 02:30:23
sLaMdAnCe 
Teema: Re: Is it just me,
I thought it might be the beer. lol!

23. november 2004, 02:27:56
coan.net 
Teema: Re: Is it just me,
I occasionally think that also, but I think it's just my eyes playing tricks on me. That is I also play backgammon on GoldToken which has your dice on the left side of the screen (instead of the right here), so I mess things up sometimes.

23. november 2004, 02:27:19
sLaMdAnCe 
Teema: Re: Is it just me,
Ok.
Thanks.

23. november 2004, 02:23:56
skipinnz 
Teema: Re: Is it just me,
Might have somthing to do with the fault Fencer has at present. But normally it wouldn't

23. november 2004, 02:22:42
sLaMdAnCe 
Teema: Is it just me,
or do the dice change here?
I SAW a 3,5...but after I played the 3, the 5 became a 4?!

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