ketchuplover: hate those arrows--change it to stones-much clearer

the arrows were more visible.

close as it gets Amazons (furbster vs. Fencer)

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ass now positively handed to me on platter.Someones O had to go and it was mine

I just love the game as it is---can some master please challenge me

coan.net: i like that suggestion.

But then is the game endless, if you are able not to shoot, wou will not because you lose if you camt move.

Jason: Let me know how it goes.

Gorman7375: first player to move could move as normal then the second player to move can use the new method ,when i get the time iwill try and playit out on a home made board to see if it could work .

BIG BAD WOLF: I like the dont move and shoot two arrows idea.
Yes, to go first would have an extreme advantage

Gorman7375: If I were to pick, I would pick:

You can make 2 "moves" a turn.

So you can either move 2 pieces
or
Move 1 pieces, shot 1 arrow
or
don't move, and shot 2 arrows

It would probable need to be played a few times in real life to see if it really works out, or if it would make it too much one sided for the first to move.

Jason: The game would certainly go faster.
Personally I have a hard time keeping up with shooting only one arrow.

Gorman7375: move as normal then fire your first arrow and then a second , it could be tricky later in the game because you could trap yourself with the second arrow .

Jason: Without moving any pieces? or after you move a piece?

Gorman7375:or maybe the possibility to throw 2 arrows could make a more complex game .

Jason: In a normal game you are able to move your piece then throw a stone (or arrow).
In the new version you would be able to move your piece then have the option of throwing a stone OR moving another piece.
I havent thought about the pros and cons of it yet
but it seems like a good discussion.:)

Gorman7375: how do you mean exactly ?

What does anyone think of a version where you have an option of either throwing a stone or moving another piece?

Pedro Martínez: Thanks for the tip Pedro

gorman7375: Search for the games of the best players here and try to analyze them...that's all I can advise:
http://brainking.com/cz/Ratings?tp=49

Where could I go to find some stratagy for this game?....:)

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The current Urls of the Game of Amazons at Wikipedia are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_of_the_Amazons (english)

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazonen_%28Brettspiel%29 (german)

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazonas_%28juego%29 (spanish)

I 've provided a german translation of the Game of Amazons to wikipedia.org recently; and I ask you to proof-read that german translation -- or to submit a translation of the game of Amazons in your native language to wikipedia.org yourself. Thank you!

Meanwhile the first round of the Amazons & nothing else tournament is finished.
Congratulations to the winners Chessmaster2000 and Ahmagh!
The final round has already started as a 3-win-match between them.

I would like to anounce the creation of a new tournament of this type.

Cave Men ROCK!!!
good luck Jason!

ScarletRose: Thanks

Congrats Jason on your new job..

send invite please.. :)

hey! i havent lost a single game yet ;)

somehow i get overrun by all amazones that i encounter ;)

LOL...knowing hw you just lost tells you my experiences!! LOL:)

ah! oops i forgot about that one :)

thanks ... can you tell i am not that good with amazones ? ;)

the arrow will go to the square he/she just left.

when a player has 1 move left ... and no room to shoot the arrow on that move .. will he still be able to make that move ?

can O move in the example below ?

XXXX
X.OX
XXXX

And the "!" sign means "factorial" in math.

like 3! = 3x2x1, 5! = 5x4x3x2x1, etc.

It was meant to convey the notion that there are more positions in the game of Amazons than the game of chess.

There are 26 trillion ways to have the board completely filled. Think of how many positions are possible along the way!

ok, so, um.... that completely confused me @_@

Today I was curious to know "how big" this game is when compared to chess. I decided to start by counting the number of positions where there is a definite loss.

There are 100 squares on the board, and when 92 are occupied, it must mean white has lost since black made the last move.

How many positions like that are there?

Well there are 100!/92!8! ways to have 92 arrows shot, and 8!/4!4! ways for white to occupy the remaining 8 empty squares, and 4!/4! ways for black to fill in the last 4 squares for each of these positions.

100!/92!8! =

100x99x98x97x96x95x94x93/8x7x6x5x4x3x2 =

186,087,894,300

8!/4!4! = 140

4!/4! = 1

So the total is:

26,052,305,202,000

Over 26 trillion ways to lose if you have filled every square on the board.

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stuck in a tedious endgame when the outcome is determined is unnecessary

That would change nothing. If your position is so bad that you pass, your opponent just passes as well. Then, next time you pass, you are done.

there should be a 'pass this move' option for this game as in Go. two passes and it is over

if you have the equal number of moves left , then the one who moves next will be the one who loses the game when the board fills up because they will run out of spaces first (providing all available spaces can be used )

Well, we are completely separated and have equal number of squares left ?

It shouldn't really matter - the player who, on his/her turn, cannot move loses. I have not yet completed a game to that point so I wouldn't know if the final move of the losing player is required.

Is it end when a player cannot move or when he makes the final move ?

Honestly the best way to learn is just to jump in and start playing a couple of games. Once you start to see and play, things make a lot more sense.

I'm not the best player but if you would like I will play you an unrated game and tell you what I can.

I'm feeling left out. Can someone show me how to play Amazons. I see the rules yet can't comprehend them