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3. April 2005, 05:45:36
wayney 
Subject: Re: vacation credits
Vikings: unless he buys more credits that is.
I dont think I need any vacation days. Mastermind might though

3. April 2005, 05:47:35
Vikings 
he can't, vacation days run from jan. 1st thru dec. 31st

3. April 2005, 08:46:57
rod03801 
Subject: Missing smileys?
Is the smiley list up to date? I swear I saw one that had a smiley holding a sign saying "Brainking is #1", yet I do not see it on the list.

3. April 2005, 08:52:56
coan.net 
135 =


3. April 2005, 09:00:22
Bernice 
just a query.....I come on at about the same time everyday and leave at about the same time with no games left to be played at my end....today when I came on I had timed out a Tourney game with Czechgirl...how did this happen....Im not worried about it but it does give her an unfair advantage over the other players in the tourney :(

3. April 2005, 09:00:46
rod03801 
There is no 135 on the list I see...
Don't see that wolf anywhere either

3. April 2005, 09:07:25
Bernice 
Modified by Bernice (3. April 2005, 09:08:48)
= 134
= 135

3. April 2005, 09:10:44
rod03801 
My point is, why aren't these on the list I see when I click the "?" above message boxes? And if it is not on this page, how do people know about it?

3. April 2005, 09:14:55
Bernice 
Subject: Re:
rod03801: I see what you mean and it is obvious then that these 2 pages are run independantly of each other....run cursor over smiley and they are there :)

3. April 2005, 09:23:13
rod03801 
Can't. With WebTV the javascript option doesn't work. I wonder how many others there are that we don't see on that list?

3. April 2005, 09:35:10
Bernice 
115 116 117 118 119 and 126 to 135.....these are all the new ones :) I hope I havent missed any, but it might be fixed now for you :)

3. April 2005, 09:46:28
Fencer 
Look again.

3. April 2005, 09:49:05
rod03801 
Thanks, Fencer!

3. April 2005, 10:04:07
Bernice 
Subject: Re:
Fencer: now that is service :)


I will post this again in case iot got lost in the smileys :)

just a query.....I come on at about the same time everyday and leave at about the same time with no games left to be played at my end....today when I came on I had timed out a Tourney game with Czechgirl...how did this happen....Im not worried about it but it does give her an unfair advantage over the other players in the tourney :(

3. April 2005, 10:49:00
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Re:
BerniceC: Did you activate the automatic vacation?
You must consider our time zone (GMT+01:00) to calculate when a day ends and the next day starts.

3. April 2005, 11:11:05
MadMonkey 
Subject: Vacation Days
As was mentioned a while back and a few messages ago. Can we think of a way to be able to get more vacation days. Either by purchasing them, by donation from others or any other ideas.
We all run into problems sometimes, and i had a major one at the start of this year which used all my vacation days.
I know i am here alomost every day anyway, but it would be nice to have a day off at some point LOL

3. April 2005, 12:41:01
bumble 
Subject: Re: Vacation Days
MadMonkey: I agree with you.
I'd buy an extra week or so. I was in Argentina much longer than originally intended and used up a huge chunk of my allocation. Something similar is bound to crop up during this year.

How about it, Fencer, old chap? It'll mean more money!

3. April 2005, 12:43:55
Fencer 
100 Euro a day?

3. April 2005, 12:48:55
Vikings 
I'll sell some of mine for 95 per day

3. April 2005, 13:13:34
bumble 
Subject: Re:
Fencer: Oh come on, don't sell yourself short. Make it €500!

3. April 2005, 15:51:30
Czuch 
Subject: Re: Vacation Days
bumble: So if you buy a new membership when your vacation days end, you will not get the same amount of new vacation days that comes with every other new membership?

3. April 2005, 21:22:13
Grim Reaper 
I think if vacations days are sold at about $5 per day, you might get some serious takers! Not a bad idea, really.

3. April 2005, 21:27:47
coan.net 
Subject: vacations
I've always wondering if someones membership ran out, and then purchased a new one - would they get 30 new days, or have what they had before their membership ran out. Nothing that will effect me, but wondered.

3. April 2005, 21:53:34
Fencer 
Subject: Re: vacations
BIG BAD WOLF: Used vacation days are stored in the database forever, it has nothing to do with membership expiration.

3. April 2005, 23:08:41
pauloaguia 
Subject: Re: Vacation Days
You already get about 140 days each year that you don't have to play. Why do you need more than that?

3. April 2005, 23:10:38
furbster 
Subject: Re: Vacation Days
pauloaguia: agreed

3. April 2005, 23:18:50
pauloaguia 
Speaking of which: what is celebrated Abril 12th in Czech Republic? Just wondering since it's another one of those don't-have-to-play kind of days

3. April 2005, 23:22:19
Fencer 
Subject: Re:
pauloaguia: Nothing. Perhaps I should remove all holidays and possible typos in the holiday table.

3. April 2005, 23:27:57
pauloaguia 
Subject: Re: Re:
Fencer: Now you really got me . And here I was thinking the czechs also had an important holiday in April like we do...
Well, always glad to be helpful

4. April 2005, 02:40:07
wayney 
Subject: ratings and positions
how often does this site run a script to align your bkr with it's correct rating position?
I noticed when I drop bkr or increase bkr my position does not change for a while but I think it is only an hour or so at a guess.

4. April 2005, 07:13:09
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Re:
pauloaguia: Or maybe it's Liquid's birthday.

4. April 2005, 07:13:40
Fencer 
Subject: Re: ratings and positions
wayney: Yes, once an hour.

5. April 2005, 22:28:47
harley 
Last call for questions for Eriisa's interview!

Do you know Eriisa? Think up some wicked questions for her!
Do you not know Eriisa? Well now is your chance to get to know her!

Send me questions to ask in her interview!

6. April 2005, 01:34:16
Eriisa 
darn, I thought she forgot about it.

6. April 2005, 02:49:32
anastasia 
Subject: message box..
Duing a game,there are 2 message boxes,one to talk to the person you are playing and one for notes.I typed something in the private one to remind me of that move and then when the game came back to me it (the note) was gone..do they not stay for the entire game or am I goofing it up,lol.Thanks in advance :)

6. April 2005, 03:04:28
Eriisa 
the note itself is moved out of the box and I think to the bottom of the page.

6. April 2005, 14:15:35
ughaibu 
Subject: Fencer
Is bug catagory 3 about game boards or discussion boards?

6. April 2005, 14:19:18
ughaibu 
Forget it.

6. April 2005, 14:19:36
Czuch 
Worked 'hard' or perhaps worked 'hardily' but not worked 'hardly' or hardly worked (unless they did not work very hard, which I assume they did work hard)
;)

6. April 2005, 14:20:41
Fencer 
Damned foreign syntax ...

6. April 2005, 14:50:04
pauloaguia 
Subject: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: Should have been written in portuguese in the first place

6. April 2005, 17:16:44
Chessmaster1000 
Subject: Tournaments with restricted first move(s)......
I see some tournaments that the players should play some specific first moves (for example at Chess to begin with 1.e4 d6).
My question is what would happen if one player doesn't play the recommended moves, because either forgets about it or deliberately doesn't......
Does the creator of the tournament has the power to delete this player or declare the game as lost for the naughty player or what..........?

6. April 2005, 17:37:49
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Tournaments with restricted first move(s)......
Chessmaster1000: Thematic tournaments [with fixed openings] will be implemented too.

6. April 2005, 20:56:26
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re: Tournaments with restricted first move(s)......
Fencer: I'm looking forward to it. I know some Bird's Chess openings I'd like to start games with. It's done in Checkers tournaments too.

6. April 2005, 21:27:51
ughaibu 
Can one change the priority of other people's bugs? If so, is that in itself a bug?

7. April 2005, 16:54:17
Luke Skywalker 
Subject: BKR calculation
In a match consisting of more than one game, what if some games end before 2 moves and some are longer. Will the match count for BKR?

7. April 2005, 16:57:22
pauloaguia 
Subject: Re: BKR calculation
Luke Skywalker: Even more: what if they ALL end before 2 moves?

7. April 2005, 16:57:48
Fencer 
Subject: Re: BKR calculation
Luke Skywalker: Yes if the first game of the match is finished.

8. April 2005, 07:06:21
ughaibu 
I think in view of recent scandalous events it's time to review the success or otherwise of the global moderators. I assume the global moderator system was instituted as a stop-gap substitute service to provide for when none of the local moderators was online. This sounds reasonable enough but is it really necesary? Without globals a fight or a taboo word might remain unmoderated for a few hours on a public board, no great disaster as far as I can see but if such a situation can be avoided all well and good. However the problem associated with this system of prevention is that it encourages 'complete' and excessive policing. There is a tendency for humans to use/abuse the powers they are entrusted with to the limit with consequent psychological and moral deterioration. On the Gothic Chess board a few days ago there was what's usually termed a heated discussion, both the moderator, Walter Montego, and his supporting moderator, Andromedical, were online. Andromedical was active on the board at this point so there was no call for any interference from a global. (By their inherrent nature globals have less familiarity with the content and style of a board and it's frequent posters than do locals.) Nevertheless a global butted in with a trivial and patronising post as if they were a parent admonishing their kids or a teacher with a class of infants, not only is this uncalled for and irritating, it also undermines the position of the local moderators. Quite naturally Walter Montego resented this intrusion and warned the global, however, instead of apologising and backing off, this global became personally and emotionally involved. The situation quickly escalated and the globals removed Walter as moderator. For a moderator to be removed by a global because of personal reasons is completely unacceptable. After only a few months in this position the globals have developed a self-image as some kind of medievel royalty who trace their ancestors directly back to god and who cant be looked upon by mortal eyes without recompense for the insult. A day ago I asked in the Mod Squad "who removed Walter and why?", I have received no replies. This suggests that the globals think that they are above accounting for their actions and that they have an internal code of silence further isolating and "elevating" them. Recently a moderator was removed from the Poetry board. This moderator was new to the board and unfamiliar with it's content and the style of it's frequent posters, (just as globals are on boards of which they are not also the regular moderator), and this person was moderating intrusively, (just as the global did on the Gothic Chess board), if the globals stand by their decision to remove the moderator from Poetry then, to maintain consistency, the globals involved in the Gothic Chess board scandal should themselves be removed.

8. April 2005, 14:03:21
Walter Montego 
Subject: Global Moderators, censorship, a message to me, my change of heart about re-instatement
Modified by Walter Montego (8. April 2005, 15:44:52)
<Though I think of the Globals as landed gentry, I do like his reference to them and the devine right of kings. He has made some typos and references to a Poetry board that I know nothing about, but the Gothic Board I am quite familiar with. As you can see there are no swear words in it, but it certainly questions them and their powers. This posting concerns how this site is run and is therefor on topic and belongs on this discussion board. I think it also puts into perspective how censorship has taken over for no apparent reason except that someone disagrees with someone else and has the power and position to act in their own personal self-interest. And all the while hiding behind a facade of saying that they're doing it for the good of the site.

Though I'm not a personal friend of Fencer's (Filip), I have had cordial communication with him over the time that I've been a member of this site and also after he installed me as moderator of the Gothic Chess. Yes, that's right, some nameless Global Moderator removed an appointee of the site's owner without as so much as consulting him or myself. You'd think if someone was going to take such an action they'd at the very least wait until the owner had a chance to weigh in on it. I only made one post to the board. No swear words are in it either, though I certainly did tweak their noses saying I was going to ban one of them from the board because of her disruptive actions. I never even got around to attempting to do it and they removed me. She finally did write to me and thought I had banned her. Talk about not knowing one's job. She never even used her powers as a Global Moderator to see if I'd carried out my threat. If I was to be removed for that post, then why wasn't it just put on hide? Then they could write to me and find out if I typed correctly or what I was thinking for saying something like that. Then they could wait for Fencer to be the final judge.

As for the Gothic Chess board itself, it might be a good thing for me NOT to be moderator of it any more. After I was removed, I wrote to Fencer asking him to overturn what had been done and ask that it not be allowed to happen again. He said he would check into it. While I've been waiting for the results of his investigation, I've had time to analyze my own behavior in this matter.
Though I've not said anything towards Ed Trice since the end of last year and only took action towards some trouble he started about mysterious postings and accusations in late January, I believe that Ed's animosity towards me is bad for this site. Because of the unique circumstances surrounding Ed and his membership on this site, it is probably better for me to be out of his way.

Many of you reading this, but who have never gone to the Gothic Chess board or played the game may not be aware of Ed Trice's importance to a lot of the emotions that flow on that board. I was installed as moderator when Fencer got fed up with Ed's handling of it. I had just learned how to play Gothic Chess and with just a couple finished games found the discussion board. I just happened to be there when Fencer asked for volunteers. Next thing you know, I'm moderator. Though I didn't know much about the bad blood between some of the various users of the board up until that time, I found out about Ed's wrath very quickly when I challenged his having a patent for a game that I consider over a hundred years old. With me as moderator, Ed was no longer able to stop people from posting statements that he disagreed with or challenged other things about Gothic Chess. I'm a firm believer in free speech and only would censor swear words and racial remarks. It is a public board and unlike the fellowships certain words and phrases shouldn't be printed where the general public can view them. I believe this is one of the reasons that the Gothic board was one of the most popular on this site. Ed and his supporters versus his enemies and distractors, along with various unbiased observers that also liked the conversation of the board, plus danoschek. At first it quickly came to a head and Fencer banned Ed and danoscheck. Peace reigned briefly though Ed's supporters started a bring back Ed campaign. It was successful and Fencer's newly appointed moderators unbanned Ed. Then the dump Walter campaign started! (This is October 2004). I got caught up into the action myself and was not doing a good job of moderating. I freely admitted so and changed completely how I moderated after that. Rarely posting except maybe to answer a question about Gothic Chess or a tournament in progress, letting people talk as they wanted. Fencer came on at the same time was I posting to the board about my change and put Ed in his place about lawsuits and threats. (Ed has removed a lot of the relevant posts, so you'll just have to take my word on it though Fencer's is still there in all its glory!) This obviously didn't set well with Ed and he announced that he would no longer post to the board and started urging a complete boycott of it as long as I remained moderator. Ed also formed and joined numerous fellowships related to Gothic Chess at this time and encouraged his supporters and people that just wanted to play Gothic Chess to join them. I didn't edit any of these post either. I'm not against Gothic Chess. It is a good game.

Anyway, with both Ed and myself not posting to the board, it quickly got peaceful and quiet there for a few months. Then out of the blue rumors started to fly about Gothic Chess being removed from this site and Ed himself said he was leaving the site at the end of March 2005. Yes it's April now. When the postings started concerning ways to play Gothic Chess without infringing on the patent or playing other versions of Bird's or Capablanca Chess to get around his taking the game with him, you could tell this wasn't the response that he'd been planning on. So, suddenly he posts some letter written to him from some mysterious person in England or somewhere and starts a lot of innuendo and then accuses Stevie as being the author of said e-mail. I banned him on February 12th for starting this trouble. Towards the end of March, Fencer wrote me asking about Ed's bannishment in the Gothic board and if I might consider unbanning him. I did unban him March 24th. As I warned Fencer, I doubted if my tenure as moderator would last much longer. My prediction proved correct, but it wasn't how I thought it would go.

With me as moderator, even if I do nothing towards Ed, it causes lots of resentment all the same. With me gone as moderator of that particular board, this is removed. This should certainly help with the feelings expressed on that board and perhaps lessen the trouble caused by my presence. Though I doubt that will be the case, if the past is any guide to the future, it is a real possiblity and now we can see for sure. After posting this message, I will write to Fencer and tell him that I've reconsidered wanting to be re-instated as moderator of the Gothic Chess board. I think the person that removed me should be the moderator. Handing it off like they did is pretty wimpy in my estimation. Whoever it was should take the responsibilty of their action. If the roles were reversed, and I felt that I had to remove a moderator in my capacity as a Global Moderator, I would certainly tell the person I was removing that it was me that did it. What are they afraid of? You know it's going to get back to you eventually. They didn't even write me about that! Had they asked, they might have found that I would leave the position voluntarily and none of my bad feelings would even have happened. I haven't posted anywhere on this site publicly about my removal until now. I thought no one cared about me or what had happened. It's probably my fault in someways because I've not joined any fellowships, only read some public boards concerning games I play, and mostly just play the games that I have going. When I read this message that I'm attaching to this posting, I was heartened to find that what happened was not unobserved and some people saw a problem with it. Apparently some debate has gone on about it in fellowships where this is being discussed.
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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This letter is from ughaibu. I've not always agreed with him in his postings, but he hit the nail on the head with this writing.
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I was told to remove the message by NOT a floosie. She said he was banned from this board for it's contents. I'm not sure why that would be so, but I have removed it at her request. I also sent a messsage asking why. I've been up all night reading and writing this stuff that I'll have to see what's up tomorrow. I haven't written anything until now about what happened and there's a good chance this will be last thing I ever write about it again too.


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Thank you for your consideration and please write to me if you have questions or comments, pro or con.
Walter Montego

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