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6. March 2005, 19:13:10
baddessi 
I don't think of it as racist at all. They want a special prize tourney for their country, so be it. Anyone else here is welcome to do the same : )
As Merrily said down the page, there was talk of doing one for English speaking people and wasn't started for lack of interest. The Czechs put their money up, they should be commended, noted on server news and not criticized. If there was more interest, others could do the same. I would donate to an English speaking prize tourney. Anyone else?

6. March 2005, 17:32:26
Czuch 
Of course I am only playing the 'devils advocate' here. As many know who have discussions with me in politics boards, I disagree with political correctness and all its trimmings. I am for individual freedoms. But it surprises me that the many good liberals on this site who champion socialism and equality among all above all else, have not come forward with your own complaints..... your views would be far more compelling if you werent so afraid to voice them in all circumstances!

6. March 2005, 17:25:14
Czuch 
Subject: Re:
Also curious that it was a tournament for only Czech members yet it was worthy for all on brainking to be informed. It could have easily been posted to the Czech version without bothering those of us who are not Czech.

Bry.... atleast you were able to find one good example, you only had to go back a year or two :) At least that example it was actually an issue for all of Brainking and not just one particular race.

6. March 2005, 17:13:48
Fencer 
Bry: Of course you are right. And it was also advertised on BrainKing.info site and several more places. But some people will always complain about anything, it doesn't matter. That's why I don't see these accusations worth responding from my side.

6. March 2005, 17:10:01
Bry 
Subject: Re: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: I might be wrong, but when LindaJ created the BG tournament that was $5 to enter with a $50 prize, that too was advertised on Server News with public gratitude.

6. March 2005, 16:32:25
Stevie 
I know who will be number 1 and 2 ;o) :oP

6. March 2005, 16:31:06
Fencer 
Subject: Re: stats
Stevie: Not yet but it might be interesting to observe.

6. March 2005, 16:27:03
Stevie 
Subject: stats
Fencer
does your stats engine log how many times someone has been thrown from any fellowship? LMAO

6. March 2005, 16:16:40
Stevie 
Subject: Re: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: It has happened in the past too Chuck
members of CS and friends have been mentioned for special donation attempts, but others havent...so this is not a "race" issue

6. March 2005, 16:14:30
Czuch 
Subject: Re: Re:
Purple: I understand that. I am sure those Czech players did not donate for the public gratitude either. It just seems curious that because they all are Czech and the site creator is Czech, that they should recieve public gratitude that others who have donated more have not recieved.

Obviously the quick brush off by Fencer gives some credit to this charge of 'racism'

6. March 2005, 16:09:21
Purple 
Subject: Re: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: Some don't donate for public gratitude.

6. March 2005, 16:01:39
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: More jokes, please! :-) It's highly entertaining after a hard working day.

6. March 2005, 15:54:06
Czuch 
Subject: Re: Re:
Bry: I dont think of it as racist..... but my beef is that by the site creator making a public comment of 'endless gratitude' for those Czech players who donated $44.00 U.S. to Brainking, yet we have never seen such public gratitude for others, many who have surly given far more than that sum, that appears to me as a bit racist.

6. March 2005, 15:33:44
Bry 
Subject: Re:
ughaibu: I agree, are Team USA Fellowship or England Thru and Thru racist?

The server news has simply highlighted the tournament that will bring much needed revenue to the site, which I am sure is appreciated. As the Server News says, it's design and layout is upto the creator of it. If they want it for Czech people only, well so be it.

6. March 2005, 15:30:13
ughaibu 
I dont see what's racist about it. Should Bernice's men only and women only ponds be disallowed as sexist? Should beginners tournaments be disallowed as ratingist?

6. March 2005, 14:52:04
Vikings 
Subject: Re: Server News 4 March
Merrily Watkins: red-haired monks with lisp from Belarus! Where do I sign up?

6. March 2005, 14:42:31
Merrily Watkins 
Subject: Re: Server News 4 March
Im a goodun: Someone tried to do the same for English-speaking players but it was cancelled due to lack of interest.
Of course the site owner is grateful for any revenue no matter from what source. I'm sure he's do the same if a similar tournament was held for red-haired monks with lisps from Belarus.

6. March 2005, 14:24:44
Im a goodun 
Subject: Re: Server News 4 March
rod03801: Thank you for your prompt reply! My question was not about the tournament creator, but rarher about the site promoting racist policies through Server News! Does the site owner(s) have any principles on the promotion of racist policies within the site?

6. March 2005, 13:09:06
rod03801 
Subject: Re: Server News 4 March
Im a goodun: Yes, a tournament creator can set up whatever parameters they want for their tournament. So, it would be perfectly acceptable to do that. Why not become a paid member and do just that? :-)

6. March 2005, 12:59:43
Im a goodun 
Subject: Server News 4 March
Is it not a bit racist to advertise a prize, available to players from one country only?
Would it also be acceptable to site policy to promote a prize available to everyone EXCEPT Czechs??

5. March 2005, 04:40:59
Bernice 
Subject: Re:
harley:
Im honoured....to be the only one on your list...I would have thought there would have been a couple more??...but thanks anyway...

4. March 2005, 14:59:35
Tulip 
Subject: Re: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: oh i agree it souldnt kick in if they are here,i cant imagine being here and not playing?..LOL
i go mad at home if i cant get here at least........most of the day!..heheee!

4. March 2005, 14:48:38
Czuch 
Subject: Re:
Niki: Ohhhh thanks! That is hardly $13,000 dollars now is it! Actually it is less than $45 dollars donation per person. I wonder who has given the most money to Brainking for memberships? I am sure there must be many more people who deserve "endless gratitude" if all it takes is a $45 dollar donation?

Dont get me wrong.... it is far more than I will likely ever give, but what about all the other people who have given their hard earned money in donation to Brainking and never recieved any recognition in the server news for 'endless gratitude'? I may be wrong (again) but it seems like there are probably many people who deserve such an honor wo have pledged far more money to Brainking?

4. March 2005, 14:28:56
Niki 
for info.. 13000CZK is approx $575 or £300

4. March 2005, 14:28:38
Czuch 
Now I see it says $13,000 not $15,000 and it is "membership value" whatever that means... It still sounds like you got $13,000 though... maybe you will clairify this for me/us?

4. March 2005, 14:24:50
Czuch 
Subject: Re:
Fencer: Whoops! My bad! I thought the server news said that $15,000 had been given to Brainking in exchange for a membership! That would certainly help buy that new server..... I guess I just misread the news or something, sorry :)

4. March 2005, 14:16:42
Fencer 
What are you talking about?

4. March 2005, 14:13:11
Czuch 
WOW! $15,000! Thats a lot of cash!

Sounds like that new server should not be a problem to obtain now! Woooo Whoooo!

4. March 2005, 14:11:00
Czuch 
Subject: Re:
Tulip: I dont think anybody disagrees with autovacation to kick in when we are not online here. But Stevies point is ( and many agree) that if you are online here autovacation option should not be kicked in for you. Now if you should have a day set as a vacation day and happen to still get online, then your vacation day should still be used if needed.

4. March 2005, 12:56:11
Badinage 
I think that normal games should maybe be allowed to take advantage of this rule, but a tournament?? Planned hoildays...YES but not technical issues, or things like that? You would not get conditions like that in a real tournament?

But what the heck, its an added feature now LOL

4. March 2005, 12:48:51
Tulip 
i play on an NTL box through my tv,its well known as a lousy server.
last year i timed out in 24 games as i couldnt get on-line for over 3 days.
i now have auto vacation set in case it happens again.
NTL was off for nearly a week last month and i was glad of the auto feature as it saved my games

4. March 2005, 12:41:38
Badinage 
Thats a good point mate

4. March 2005, 12:39:18
Stevie 
Subject: Re:
Aragon:some players will be on site but not move a game, hence auto vacation kicks in and delays a game. i feel if a player is on site and times out..it should be just that, a time out

4. March 2005, 12:25:36
Badinage 
I guess a better use of the feature would be that if you had set some vacation days, but were late back it should kick in??

That way if you know you are going away then you set holidays, and if your are delayed for whatever reason it kicks in upto maybe another 7 or so.

But I guess I can see its easy for someone just to disappear for 30 days LOL

4. March 2005, 12:24:01
Badinage 
How so mate?

4. March 2005, 12:17:52
Stevie 
Subject: Re:
Aragon: I dont..it gets abused too much

4. March 2005, 12:15:09
Badinage 
Infact it didnt end the game but added 1 day as auto-vacation, I like that feature :)

4. March 2005, 12:13:44
Fencer 
The timeout script is delayed by 5 mins, in order to to improve the overall performance.

4. March 2005, 12:11:22
Badinage 
Ahhh thanks, it went to -5 then ended the game I think :)

Thank you both

4. March 2005, 12:11:00
harley 
Is it not like tourneys where it can go up to an hour?

4. March 2005, 12:10:06
harley 
Aragon, do you know about auto-vacation?
Also, the system updates every hour (or so) so if that game will time out, it will happen in the next hour.
Unless they have auto vacation on.

4. March 2005, 12:09:26
Fencer 
Subject: Re:
Aragon: It should not exceed -5 mins.

4. March 2005, 12:06:37
Badinage 
Has the time out rule on games changed?? I have a game at time to move = -4mins and counting??

Not that im complaining, I dont like to win games by time out! Just curious

4. March 2005, 08:39:18
harley 
Bernice, you are fully aware of why I had to put you on enemies. I'll remove you now, to receive questions only. For the record, you're the only person on my enemies list.

4. March 2005, 08:16:25
Bernice 
Subject: Re: Re:
baddessi: hahahaha thanks Hun. So i know now that I cant trust you and Eriisa HAHAHAHAHA.....
anymore offers????

Maybe Fencer could give her another PM box so the ones she has on ENEMIES can at least take part in the fun side of BK......HMMMMM just a thought!!!

4. March 2005, 08:12:27
baddessi 
Subject: Re: Re:
BerniceC: ok, the offer stands if you decide you want to do that. I won't abuse your trust. And at least you can be sure they will get to harley if you send them to me and you can be sure I won't tell Eriisa what you asked!

4. March 2005, 08:07:04
Bernice 
Subject: Re: Re:
baddessi: ROFL...hehehe....I already thought of sending them to Eriisa, and getting her to send them on my behalf....Thanks for the offer tho....I will wait and see what happens ROFLMBO

4. March 2005, 08:05:15
baddessi 
Subject: Re: Re:
BerniceC: well if it will help, you can send them to me, and I'll send them to harley : )
I won't peek

4. March 2005, 08:02:48
Bernice 
Subject: Re: Re:
Modified by Bernice (4. March 2005, 08:05:46)
baddessi: I cant...LOLOLOL....she has me on enemies......ROFLMBO

***EDIT*** I guess she should have said that the asking of questions applied only to those not on her enemies list LOL.

4. March 2005, 07:55:33
baddessi 
Subject: Re:
BerniceC: send them in a PM to harley : )
She collects all the questions, sends them to Eriisa to answer and then posts the completed interview.
I'm working on my list too!

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