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Subject: Re: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

Jim Dandy: hahahaha.......gotta love this man LOL

13. January 2008, 23:03:57

Eriisa

Subject: Re: Moderator missing

beach: She did not leave the site, she only stepped down from moderating the boards. Hopefully, after a break, she will mod again.

13. January 2008, 23:08:26

Subject: connectivity, scorning, co-moding

A recurring topic, an off topic, an untrue topic - all rolled into one...baddessi has her reasons, which are distorted in posts here - please get the posts here back on topic.... thanks!

anything else along this line will just be removed for the sake of those wishing to use the board as its intended...
thanks!

13. January 2008, 23:21:20

The Col

Subject: Re: connectivity, scorning, co-moding

redfrog: maybe the definition of " use the board as its intended" needs to be redefined.

13. January 2008, 23:29:36

Subject: Re: connectivity, scorning, co-moding

Jim Dandy: sounds like a good idea - hrqls would be the one to ask - and maybe in a PM?? Thanks!

14. January 2008, 00:44:53

The Col

Subject: Re: connectivity, scorning, co-moding

redfrog: I trust he reads this board,that should do the trick.

14. January 2008, 04:34:01

baddessi

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Subject: just to set the record straight....

I am not leaving the site at this time, just stepped down from moderating. I am working alot of odd hours, have alot going on with my family life and yes, have some trouble with my internet...some of it due to a transition from RR to comcast in my area...and probably some problems with the site here...so yes, my pages load slowly, but I have no problems with anyone on the site here and am do not want my leaving to be viewed as "being on the front lines of discontent".

We have some great new globals, and I felt that with Hrqls, coan.net and redfrog taking care of things here, this board was in good hands without me, so stepped down. That's really all there is to it. They can give the time and attention the board needs and I'm just not able to do it at this time.

Thanks to those of you for your kind words and support, but really that's all there is to it.

But can't resist one more time saying...

please return this board to its intended purpose, brainking, it's structure, features and future.

And.... thanks for understanding

14. January 2008, 05:31:57

ScarletRose

Subject: T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs

So Fencer.. how can us lifers continue to show support? Is there still a store? And why is it your Wife stopped designing T-Shirts..

14. January 2008, 07:08:19

Fencer

Subject: Re: T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs

ScarletRose: Just be patient. There are more things to be released this year. It's too early to specify them.

14. January 2008, 08:28:43

Foxy Lady

I really wish members would stay out of ppls private lives,it's really none of anybodys business.

14. January 2008, 10:29:44

Ewe

Subject: Re:

Foxy Lady: I agree! Too many people are here to cause trouble, seems especially on this board!

So back on topic....I read the news about the 'trash' box but I dont see it yet, where do I look? Thanks

14. January 2008, 10:31:36

pauloaguia

Subject: Re:

Ewe: On your message box: http://brainking.com/pt/MessageBox

14. January 2008, 10:34:49

Ewe

Subject: Re:

pauloaguia: oh yes, ok thank you very much!

14. January 2008, 12:55:40

Off topic?

I fail to see how a discussion about the functionality of the site is off topic.

Brainking isn't running so well lately. It's Structure is failing in the eyes of quite a few members. It's Features are unviewable a lot of the time. We are refused access to it's features on a regular basis. And my personal view of it's features is that there are too many. It needs to be stripped back. Please do not feature any more red numbers until I can view the features that have been offered before and are hard to use because of lack of functionality.

And last but not least. From the tone of this board recently the Future of Brainking isn't looking so hot! I do believe the suggestion is that it's future will be a lot less solvent.

And I believe that discussion of moderators and global moderators comes under the heading of either Structure as they are an integral part of the smooth running of this site or they are a Feature of this site to be seen on every board.

So someone please tell me where the off topic is??????

14. January 2008, 12:58:39

Fencer

Subject: Re:

TarantinoFan: Not too original. Try something new next time.

14. January 2008, 13:03:03

Subject: Re:

Fencer: Yes very unoriginal of me to ask a question!

As we all know that questions go unanswered or are replied to with snide comments from you or threats of removal by the mods.

14. January 2008, 13:06:48

Subject: Re:

Modified by TarantinoFan (14. January 2008, 14:12:08)

Fencer: And PS. Don't be a hypocrite. If you want me to try something new next time how about you try it too instead of your ******** one liners.

Might be something new if you actually answered the question. What is off topic about the subject?

14. January 2008, 13:10:37

Subject: Re:

TarantinoFan: there were 2 questions/comments on the last couple of pages :
- the connection to brainking is bad for some users
- badessi stopped being a comod on this board

for problems with the connection please read the blog entry at brainking.info :
http://brainking.info/archives/403-The-world-of-delay-and-waiting.html

about badessi and her reasons to stop being a comod of this board, she posted her own message explaining everything
some people tried to make it sound like something else though and they continued in that line .. from that lead some more post which were not related to brainking at all anymore .. of course those messages can be fun and wont be censored .. but please post them at the appropriate board, some people like to come to this board and get info about brainking itself without all other posts thrown into as well .. if they want to read the other posts they can go to the general chat or some other dedicated boards

14. January 2008, 13:15:39

rabbitoid

Subject: booooring

Could someone in authority please unblock Dano, or at least Ed? At least they were fun. The current spammers are too repetitive.

14. January 2008, 13:21:34

Subject: Re: booooring

rabbitoid: :) thanks for your support :)
but please lets concentrate on brainking and not the spammers ;)

at the moment no players are hidden or banned on this board

14. January 2008, 13:22:26

Subject: Re:

Hrqls: Thankyou. Now I understand. I missed the point of the book discussion being off topic as I read it to still be about the moderators. I do see your point though.

14. January 2008, 13:23:04

Ewe

Subject: Re: booooring

rabbitoid:

14. January 2008, 13:27:12

Subject: Re: booooring

Modified by TarantinoFan (14. January 2008, 13:34:36)

rabbitoid: Removed as requested.

14. January 2008, 13:28:35

Subject: Re: booooring

TarantinoFan: please take this to another board

14. January 2008, 14:31:49

Subject: Re:

TarantinoFan: Yes i agree...the "oneliners" who think they are funny with their smileys are the worst spammers.

As i see it there are 2 problems here:

1. Fencers never (or VERY SELDOM) answer "uneasy" questions from honest people (those he calls "ceratin users").

2. If a constructive discussion starts then either mods or the "oneliners" makes the discussion go lost in too many childish "smiley posts"

14. January 2008, 14:34:55

Jason

14. January 2008, 14:37:53

Subject: Re:

Jason: Thanks for giving more power to my post about childish oneliners with smileys :)

14. January 2008, 14:42:34

Subject: Re:

Jason: In the mood I'm in I could say a lot of things in response to that. I choose to take it as a joke and say............

14. January 2008, 14:52:46

Subject: Re:

Andersp: i agree with both your points at most times

the thing to do about the oneliners destructing a discussion is to ignore them or let a mod take care of them (and if no mod does take care then send a pm to the mod of the board) .. at least dont react to it and multiply the onelines into many-posts

the emoticon from jason was appropriate though .. he could also have stated his post in a several lines, but this 1 emoticon serves a better purpose by keeping the board on its intention

14. January 2008, 15:14:53

Subject: Re:

Hrqls: You agree with my points but still you think that Jason's "off topic" sign is ok?

My post was an explanation why this board goes wrong and if that is off topic than i have seen posts 100 times more off topic.

Not long ago a mod (Redfrog) posted how many points he scored in a game...what has that to do with Brain Kings future?

double standards?

14. January 2008, 15:26:41

Subject: Re:

Andersp: i dont know which post by redfrog you mean, if he posted on how many points in a game he scored then it was definetly off topic and should not have been posted here

this board is about brainking and its future .. so not only its future (but i think you didnt mean only its future)

my agreement with jasons emoticon was because discussing the oneliners just multiply the oneliners into many posts making it multiple-post-one-liners

your post itself wasnt offtopic though, i should have clarified that, sorry

i hope i am not using double standards, if you think i do please send me a pm
once in a while there was a user (i dont think he is fluent in english) posted the standings in a tournament, he did this about once a month .. it was off topic, but as it always remained to be 1 post and didnt lead to a real off topic discussion i led that one go by .. some weeks ago he posted 2 posts about a tournament though and i directed him to the tournament board.
thats where i try to draw a line .. when a (series of) post(s) is about to clutter the board and hiding the on topic posts into off topic ones .. then its time to do something .. an occasional off topic (single) post might slip through though as its often more confusing to remove/redirect the off topic one that to let that single 1 remain

if you want to discuss the modding or have tips/ideas please dont hesitate to send me a pm .. i am always eager to learn (but also might have my own opinion ;))

14. January 2008, 15:32:12

Subject: Re:

Hrqls: I just wanted it stated by a moderator that my post wasnt off topic.

Nope...by double standards i was referring to those who threaten to remove/ban for off topic posts and then post their own.

Redrrogs 'game post" was posted dec 25 in case someone thinks that im lying...go and check it c/p isnt allowed.

14. January 2008, 15:39:53

Subject: Re:

ive gone and deleted anything that could be considered an off topic post from myself - i challenge others to follow my example....

14. January 2008, 16:45:25

AbigailII

Subject: Re:

Modified by AbigailII (14. January 2008, 16:46:16)

Hrqls: this board is about brainking and its future

To be pedantic, that's not what this page says. It says Board for everybody who is interested in BrainKing itself, its structure, features and future., so, from the description one could deduce this board doesn't have a topic, just a vague restriction on who can read/write the board.

I don't care much (although I find the smiley posts a waste of time) about what goes on on the board, but if people are eager to slap others with "off topic", perhaps people should start with clearly defining what is on topic. As it stands now, nothing is defined to be either on, or off topic.

14. January 2008, 17:25:21

srnity

Subject: Re:

AbigailII: Here - here - I second that - well said

14. January 2008, 17:36:24

Subject: Re:

AbigailII: lol ok .. i guess i will have to change the description

as i read it as it is right now i thought it was clear that the subjects on this board are brainking itself, its structure, features and future which i think to be the topic of this board

i will think of another description .. please give me a week time :)

14. January 2008, 17:44:35

Ewe

In all the years Brainking has been in operation no one has ever had a problem understanding what exactly this board is for as its so very straight forward...suddenly...for some reason??? people do not understand! I think that is just nit picking! Are people so bored with life they have to nit pick at a board on a game site on the internet? So very sad indeed!

Come on people, why cant you just have fun here?

All this moaning will make you old & grey way before your time. Relax, enjoy & be nice...much more enjoyable

14. January 2008, 17:47:52

Subject: Re:

AbigailII: I have a far different opinion on the description....

The description is very clear on that fact that anyone is welcome to post regarding a couple of very clear topic guidelines...

Brainking itself: This is a reference to the site in general - thoughts regarding it as a game site...

Brainkings Structure: This is in reference to the website in a technical light - posts about the actual code behind what we as the user see, posts about how the site is organized...

Brainkings Features: This is in reference to all the menu links on the left and right of the screen, the in game options, the settings page and how things in general work...

Brainkings Future: This is in reference to questions or comments about the future of brainking and what it might look like in the future.

These clearly defined topics create a cohesive sense for the purpose of this discussion board, and it is appropriately represented in the title of the board - Brainking.com

several posts have been made encouraging others to stop "off topic" conversations. These would include any general chatting, posting of tournaments, and other such posts that have specific boards for such postings...

I think its clear that discussions about the speed of accessing the site have been exhausted.... not that such posts are off topic - merely that there is nothing left to say - and the majority of the posts regarding connectivity are non-productive and repetitive complaints ....

the majority of off topic posts that are edited or removed are due to the rude content, the abusive language, and or the way what could be considered an appropriate post is posted in an inappropriate way...

i really hope this helps with any confusion - and any further questions anyone has about the nature of the board should send a PM to Hrqls, the board main moderator....

Thanks!

14. January 2008, 17:53:19

AbigailII

Subject: Re:

redfrog: Well, I'm not a native English speaker, but any qualification that starts with "Board for everybody who ..." for me is a qualification about the people who use the board, and not a qualification about the topic. Yes, I know it's pedantic, but I don't think it's any less pedantic than all the "this is off-topic" posts we have been seeing.

You want to keep waving "off-topic" graphics in everyone face? Then I think you start by being clear what the board is about - not as a post interpreting your idea what the charter of the board is, but by writing it down in the charter.

14. January 2008, 17:55:09

srnity

Subject: Re: at the moment no players are hidden or banned on this board

Hrqls: Ahemmm, I know of at least one ......."You are not allowed to post messages because you have been banned by BrainKing.com administrator"....... truth will set you free, or something like that .......

14. January 2008, 17:57:46

Subject: Re:

AbigailII: it seems a fair request to me - and thankfully - hrqls posted while i was writing that he would work on doing just that.... so hopefully soon the description itself will be more detailed....

14. January 2008, 18:14:08

coan.net

Subject: Re: at the moment no players are hidden or banned on this board

srnity: There is currently no one at the board level that is hidden or banned on this board. There are some that have global bans, but the moderators of the boards have no control over that.

14. January 2008, 18:31:18

NOT a floosie

Brainkings Future: This is in reference to questions or comments about the future of brainking and what it might look like in the future.

So...what is the future of BK if it continues with slowness problems, mods and globals that have been here for years leaving their positions, and a site owner that appears to be rude to the people supporting him?

14. January 2008, 18:36:53

Subject: Re:

NOT a floosie: i would have to guess for sure - but i would guess that either something will change to alter the mindset of the people you are referring to - or they will leave the site and find someplace better.... i dont plan on leaving - as i dont have any issues with my connection speed or the site owner....

14. January 2008, 18:51:34

Subject: Re:

Modified by Andersp (14. January 2008, 18:53:17)

NOT a floosie:

Many posts ago i suggested that Fencer has to learn to treat his customers with more respect OR "hire" people who can serve at the "Courtesy desk". It doesnt help if they change the description of this board if we dont get any answers from the owner or if he tells us to not feed the Trolls and other arrogant stuff

Obviously he has plenty of time since he can add trash cans and other unneeded stuff, why cant he use that time to try to fix the connection speed?. People doesnt complain just because its fun, people complain because they have a reason.

Add the silly oneliners and "off topic" signs (seems that each mod has his rules) and you have a messy discussions board..

14. January 2008, 18:55:59

Fencer

Subject: Re:

NOT a floosie: I cannot resist to say it again, although it might be easier to link to the relevant posts:

1) Nobody expects people on any position to be there forever. It happens in every company, no matter how big or small it is, and it means absolutely nothing. Nobody is forced to do what he doesn't want to do and nobody is blamed for that.

2) No matter what I say or write, there will be always someone who would react "this is rude!" and no matter how many hours/days/months we spend on the site development and performance tuning, there will be always someone who claims "it is terribly slow!".

The conclusion - none of the mentioned points means that BrainKing has no future.

(and how many people are offended by this childish smiley now?)

14. January 2008, 19:01:22

Subject: Re:

Modified by Hrqls (14. January 2008, 19:02:41)

Andersp: i wonder why you used to many white lines in your message

i agree that fencer is not always that diplomatic in his answers, i hope you wont apply that same characteristic on me though

the problem with the connection speed, is that not everyone has the same problem .... i am from the netherlands and dont have that much problems with the speed, redfrog is from the usa and doesnt have any problems, fencer says he doesnt have any problems .. the only difference between the users who do have problems and those who dont have must be the route by which the connection goes ... that route is something in which fencer doesnt have any influence and which he cant 'fix'

this has been said more than once, it even appeared as a blog on brainking.info ... it would be nice if that topic would come to an end .. or if there is some miraculous solution if someone would post it somewhere (probably the computer board as it might be quite technical)

some people do like the extra features, thats why he adds them (but the ones who do like them are silent while the ones who dont like it are quite loud)

the only rule for this board is to be on topic (and to be nice and have some netiquette)

(edited because i forgot a word 'not' :))

14. January 2008, 19:10:16

Subject: Re:

Hrqls: switched to plain text editor (took me 2 minutes) hope the lines are gone now :)

I dont care if Fencer creates 100 trash cans but i think he should concentrate on important things such as the sites connection speed first.

He said not long ago that there is a way to higher speed but that line is expensive so it seems to me that he hasnt tried everything.

I know many people in Europe who are complaining about the speed too

14. January 2008, 19:19:40

Subject: Re:

Andersp: i didnt see that post about the expensive line but i havent read all post the last 3 weeks (as i was on vacation and didnt get online) ... maybe its too expensive for the money brainking is generating .. if thats the case then the membership fees would have to increase more to be able to use that line ... (i remember 1 post about an expensive line, but that was about direct lines from the brainking server to each user :))

i know some people who dont have connection problems, and some who do .. if thats the case then it cant be the brainking server

(the lines are gone now, thanks :))

14. January 2008, 19:26:21