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Roberto Silva: Why? That is a general issue with the world. I don't want to start a political discussion about today, but just for example, the Crusades were started because the Christian's felt that it is necessary to force their beliefs onto the non-believers. I am sure you can find current similar situations...
Half of the trouble in the world comes from people that think their ideas are so good that they have to force others to follow them. If not more.
Bernice: "why is it I feel like we have had all this conversation before????:"
Because the problem has yet to be solved. Just because you're tired of hearing something doesn't mean it stopped being true.
But I still would like to know why people feel they should have the right to impose their style of play onto everybody else (people who complain about others moving slowly are another example of this), and even worse, why the admin agrees with them. If poeple don't want to use autopass, then don't use it, but what gives them the right to say that other people are not allowed to use it on their own moves?
Bernice: Yes! - It is August! We always repeat the topics!, monthly. I think in September we need to repeat the discussion about slow players than hold up tournaments for years, and October's topic is Daylight Savings time and its sense or nonsense.
Roberto Silva: And to me, I would love to see a compramise. If someone does not want to use auto-pass, and want's to click "pass" every single time - let them. But on the flip side, if you don't have a move, then auto-pass should happen with the game going back to the other player right away.
The ONLY argument that I've heard is that if the other player is using auto-pass, then if the non-auto pass player wants to send a message with each turn, then some message might be missed or something stupid like that. SOLUTION: Have all the messages turn up once they are able to move. And if it's a big enough problem, then have an auto-message of "Opponent did not have a move, so auto-pass brought the game back to you" message so the non-autopass player who don't understand will then see that the other person has not played, hence have not seen the message.
Anyway..... long argument short: I also don't understand why we don't have a good auto-pass in play.... and let each player decide how they want to play, don't make others force their opinion on them.
Walter Montego: Totally agreed, Ludo desperately needs an autopass system. It's also completely ridiculous that if someone doesn't want to use autopass, they have the right to prevent everyone else from using it when playing against them. It should be up to each person to decide whether to use autopass on their own moves, the anti-autopass brigade shouldn't have the right to dictate their terms to everybody else.
It also amazes me how many people seem unable to understand the concept of randomness, expecting randomness to mean no patterns can arise ever. True randomness means precisely that patterns can in fact emerge every once in a while. Of course, the human brain is set up so as to try and look for patterns wherever it can, which is why so many silly superstitions abound...
crosseyed: In the spirit of aganju's post, I will say that I have "noticed" that publicly complaining about the dice "seems" to quickly result in getting better rolls.
Of course I may be even more paranoid than aganju....
I have never understood the people who argue against auto-pass, nor Fencer's decision to set up the auto-pass so that those that don't want to use it can shut it off in a game created by someone that wants to use it. I think that If I create a game, then I should have the final say in the options and parameters used, not the person that accepts the game or enters the tournament. If that person doesn't like the parameters of my game, they should either create their own game, or write to me and we can discuss it, or they go pound sand and play with themselves.
I do not play Ludo, but auto-pass is a good thing for Backgammon. Yes, I have come back to a game and seen that I've missed six turns sitting on the bar. What a relief! Why would anyone want to roll and enter a move when your opponent has every point in his home base covered and you have a piece on the bar? And I do not mind when there's points open and auto-pass skips my turn either. I can always scroll back through the moves to see the bad rolls if I really want to see them.
crosseyed: No, there doesn't need to be anything wrong - I believe there is approximately a 2% chance of having 23 non-6 rolls in a row, so inevitably it will happen to anyone who plays enough. Now if that happens to you every game, that's a different matter. To me, the bigger issue with Ludo as a game is that the skill element is pretty low in my opinion - but maybe that's just because I'm not skilled enough to understand the subtleties of the game. :D
Aganju - no offense, but that's just silly. I have definitely noticed times when I roll in Dice Poker and the exact same number comes up again, which always make one wonder. But then I think back to all the times that doesn't happen, and realize that the issue is likely just that I take note of the times when it does. But even if there was an issue with the RNG, your time solution would be useless. If the RNG uses the system clock, it will be dealing in fractions of a second, and waiting 15 minutes isn't any more "random" than responding in a couple of seconds. But as you say, there is no risk to waiting, so if you feel it works for you, I'm not here to tell you to do otherwise. :)
crosseyed: The problem is - and that has been discussed many times before - with the random number generator. It generates not-so-random numbers that follow patterns, and one of those patterns is that you get the same numbers many times in a row (and if that is not what you need, you end up passing very often).
One way to avoid that is (aside from not playing here, of course, which works perfectly fine) to not play such a game immediately. The not-so-random-numbers are dependent on the time, so if you wait an hour, you get different numbers. That is my personal theory/analysis, and has been discussed before too, and many people do not believe it. It works just fine for me (for example, in backgammon I sometimes decide to double in fast-played games based only on the fact that I can kind-of-predict my next roll - if the game moves fast enough)
Feel free to try it - waiting even 15 minutes is typically enough, and the risk is nil. And feel also free to ignore this as an absurd variant of paranoia...
rod03801: I stopped playing Ludo for this very reason, too many passes. I only signed to help beach out. Sorry beach I won't signing up for any more Ludo games. Autopass would still 23 passes.
Aganju: For example the finished game pages shows me as having finished 12,271 games and then the wins/draws/losses, when in actual fact i have finished 16,002 games! It's been stuck on 12,271 for a long time now, and i'd just like to see the correct information shown there.
Hey guys, I suppose it is solved now, right? Sorry for the delay, I've just returned from holidays. Actually, it's fun to try to restart BrainKing from iPad on a hotel WiFi that goes down every 5 minutes.
hi, i guess this question has been posted already but i'm wondering if it is a common situation at the moment that games doesn't time off, what about you?
TomsWife4Life: I know it's not the best suggestion, but I've seen a few of your games (4 or 5). It appears that you are in the last game in some (probably many) of them. You can always wait the 2 or 3 weeks for each game and then they would end, and you would win some, instead of losing the 104
TomsWife4Life: It is about 3 seconds per game x500=1500 seconds =less than half an hour(1800 seconds). Waiting for Fencer will take significantly longer, trust me.
ThunderGr: Yes i could just resign... but it would take HOURS because i would have to resign like 500 games! Im hoping Fencer could possibly just delete them for me!
TomsWife4Life: Just go on and resign as many times as you need for the match to end.It does not matter if it is your turn or not.You can always resign a game anytime.
I did write him earlier today but he hasnt read my message yet! I need 104 games deleted if possible! The person all of the games are with can no longer play here... so the games are just sitting there! I cant play any news games until those games are deleted! Every time I try to resign... another pops up because they are 20 game match or something like that! Any help getting rid of these games would be greatly appreciated!