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6. June 2014, 08:31:00
JerNYC 
Subject: Freeloaders?
Some of you people crack me up, you know that? As if all non-paying players are somehow beneath you and warrant contempt. I have never seen a snootier membership base on any board game site. As if Brainking is soooo much better than all the other sites. Well, it's not and the declining numbers bear that out. BK falls behind IYT and GT in many aspects. Since 2008, I have played regularly at all three sites and I also used to frequent Little Golem and YourTurnMyTurn. Same name, same person. So, I'm not just speaking off-hand here. I know all these sites very well and I have always felt that BK offered the least value to me. In terms of tournament play, I get a lot more competition on IYT and at a much faster pace. Same with the ladders. It's become a running joke that BK has the slowest players around. I can face the best competition in the world on Little Golem (in Go Moku and Connect 6, anyway). If what I want is a real sense of community with down-to-earth and humble people then I know GT is the place for me (and I have been a paid member there). Not only that, but GT innovates more than anyone else. They are constantly introducing new games and variants and updating site features. My intent here is not to belittle BK but to make some of you understand that it's not worth it for some of us "freeloaders" to join your fiefdom. However, I am happy to be exposed to as many advertisements as can make money for Fencer in exchange for a few free games of Frog Finder. The funny thing is I remember when everything on the internet was free in the early 00's and nobody was calling anyone names then. ;)

6. June 2014, 10:42:48
crosseyed_uk 
Subject: Re: Freeloaders?
Modified by crosseyed_uk (6. June 2014, 10:43:25)
JerNYC: As I stated in a previous post each to their own. I still think this site is the best to play in for layout etc. IYT no longer have discussion boards and runs very slow for me. and I can't understand Goldtokens layouts so don't bother with the discussion boards. Granted Goldtoken is upgrading and improving the site and if things do fail the owner does extend membership sometimes. If this site is losing members it has to be because Fencer has shown no interest in this site anymore which is a pity.

6. June 2014, 12:07:05
Bernice 
Subject: Re: Freeloaders?
crosseyed: hear, hear...I agree with what you have said :)

6. June 2014, 13:30:39
Justaminute 
Subject: Re: Freeloaders?
JerNYC:
I apologise for using the emotive term freeloader.

I was specifically attacking those individuals who try to get something for nothing, by complaining about people not moving fast enough, thereby enjoying increased benefits for themselves to the detriment of others.

If you play in an over the board chess tournament, for example, you don’t get your opponent complaining that you are not moving fast enough. If you play so slowly you run out of time you lose the game. It is the same here.

I was not attacking those who simply play their games and have the common sense to chose clock times that suit themselves, rather than expect others to adhere to there terms.

Again, I apologise for using the term which was overly emotional.

6. June 2014, 14:15:52
beach 
Subject: Re: Freeloaders?
Modified by beach (6. June 2014, 14:16:56)


JerNYC:  wow if you feel that way I cannot understand why you even play here!!!

I do not find paying members here to feel above non paying members at all.  In fact you will find most paying members are friendly and help non paying members.
  As for membership declining here I think it is people have moved on to different types of games, this site has not had upgrades in several years.  Fencer has said himself he doesn't have the time or interest, neither paying or non paying members can do anything about that.  That is a completely different issue


6. June 2014, 14:44:11
rod03801 
Subject: Re: Freeloaders?
JerNYC: That was a pretty "snooty" post coming from someone complaining of a "snooty" membership base.
And sorry, but EVERY turn based site has people complaining of "the slower players". Even at the sites you list.

I, along with most of the paid membership base, certainly do appreciate the free players as well. It's only common sense that the base of available opponents would be pretty small if only paid members could play here.

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