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17. June 2003, 01:18:38
MadMonkey 
Subject: Pawns - a thought........
I have been reading all that is being written about pawns etc..

As someone who does pay towards the site, i try to look at it from both sides.

I get fed up when i can not get on here at certain times & the reason may well be there are too many people online. How can we blame that just on pawns (we were pawns once). I reckon there are about 260 paying members (out of 5900), if all or even half the paying members logged on at the same time the server would overload anyway - how would that be stopped ??? - would we start limiting Knights (i think not !!).

We would not have so many games to play if we started limiting pawns more than they already are. Logging them off when the server gets to a certain level would lead to games timing out & more people getting upset. I think that pawns are happy with the deal they get, we all were before we decided to become paying members. That was our choice as it is theres. We know the benefits we get as paying members, maybe those benefits should be made more clear to pawns to encourage them to join.

At the moment it looks like we are trying to drive them away, which personally i think is wrong. I received a message from a pawn today who is no longer going to be playing here as they don't feel they are welcome & also there is a note on this board from one who is not playing here again - i think it is sad this is what is happening to this site.

All this running people down just because they may not be able to afford to join at the present time is totaly wrong. How do we expect this site to get better & grow when people are being made to feel not wanted here ?????

MadMonkey

17. June 2003, 01:47:49
Dmitri King 
Subject: Re: Pawns - a thought........
Mad Monkey, I heard someone say "we were all brain pawns once" a few weeks ago. perhaps it was you, I do not remember. I sure wish I knew what that has to do with ANYTHING, because as far as I can tell, it is a meaningless statement, as it is an obvious fact (since one cannot log onto the site without being a brain pawn at some point).

I don't think anyone is trying to drive brain pawns away. WHat is being suggested is that brain pawns have some of their benefits reduced, wihch has two possible consequences:

1) They might feel ti more necessary to become a member, because they obviously do not now (I very much doubt ythat financial woes are the reason people are not becoming members. Did all of the destitute people in this coutnry suddenly become board games players at brain King? I doubt it.)

2) There might be fewer occasions when a paying member cannot gte on the site to make his moves.

of course, you will probably counter that a 3rd consequence is that brain pawns may leave the site altogether. I suppose that somehow this loss of zero revenue is more important than dissatisfied PAYING members, but I don't quite understand how.

whether or not a person can afford a membership is really not relevant to the discussion anyway. I only discuss it because people don't seem to understand the difference between not wanting to pay for something and not being able to afford something.

17. June 2003, 02:07:32
MadMonkey 
Subject: Re: Pawns - a thought........
Dmitri: Good point, i think that point should be made. Is what you are saying is that we don't need Pawns or that they should have a couple of days to decide to join or get kicked out - don't think that attitude will help anyone or the site.

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