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20. December 2007, 19:24:32
MadMonkey 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
WellyWales & coan.net: I think this should be looked into again myself

I (like others) have no vacation days left, BUT do not really want to have to (but would love to pop on) come on line Xmas Day

When i added 6 months to my membership this year i did not even think about Xmas, now i have no days left to use, or apart from buying MORE membership can not get any more, thats why i requested a while ago about the ability to buy and 'X' amount per year if needed , after all, its still money for BrainKing

The site should be more flexible when things like this come about.
We have a site action for the month about buying membership and getting extra for what you pay, which is great if you have spare money at this time of year. Sadly, like MANY others i do not, as family etc... have to come first this time of year

I will mention more in my interview

Xmas should be a time for people to be happy, have fun, relax, hopefully be with family, play games if they have time BUT NOT be made to feel they have to be here, as much as we love the site

PLEASE Fencer, lets keep saying


20. December 2007, 19:35:58
alanback 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
MadMonkey:  It would be good of Fencer to shut off time control from, say, Xmas Eve to New Year's Day.  

20. December 2007, 20:25:13
Rose 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
alanback:  I dont think that  would be fair to the many hundreds of people here that dont celebrate that Christian Holiday. I didnt see any one ask for time controls shut off during the start of Channukah.. 

20. December 2007, 23:34:51
Baked Alaskan 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
Rose:

I agree, should be no holiday time off except for using vacation days.
Not everyone celebrates christmas and no extra time should be added.

20. December 2007, 23:44:18
The Col 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
or2ak.com: Let me get this straight.You are saying we as players should not recieve an extra perk based on the principal of equality?
Isn't that cutting off your ear to spite your nose?

20. December 2007, 23:57:42
rod03801 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
Jim Dandy: But as has been mentioned, when Fencer ended site holidays, he added 5 vacation days to the standard amount that rooks receive. Seems fair enough to me. We really are given plenty of vacation, in my eyes.

21. December 2007, 00:07:37
The Col 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
rod03801: Yes,the extra 5 days should cover everyones personal faith days.

21. December 2007, 00:16:29
Baked Alaskan 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
Jim Dandy:

(or2ak.com: Let me get this straight.You are saying we as players should not recieve an extra perk based on the principal of equality?
Isn't that cutting off your ear to spite your nose?)

Fencer already gave us 5 extra vacation days...  That was the perk 

21. December 2007, 00:22:45
The Col 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
or2ak.com: ok,mark me down with the group who feel the extra 5 days is enough

20. December 2007, 23:57:20
Czuch 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
or2ak.com: Im pretty sure that even if you dont celebrate Christmas, it is still a holiday for you, and most people have it as a day off from work?

I am certain that Hanukkah is not a holiday for most people where they get the time off from work etc...

21. December 2007, 00:09:50
Baked Alaskan 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
Puckish:

(or2ak.com: Im pretty sure that even if you dont celebrate
Christmas, it is still a holiday for you, and most people have it as a
day off from work?)

I dont celebrate and no, I dont get the day off.

All I'm saying is I agree with Fencer and others that we have enough vacation days. Use them wisely throuout the year 



21. December 2007, 00:12:25
The Col 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
Puckish: Hanukkah was a poor example,the only people who consider it a big event are non-Jews.I think people feel since it falls near Christmas it must be of parallel importance,it's not.

21. December 2007, 01:07:27
AbigailII 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
Puckish: I do get off with Christmas, and I don't have to go to work. Which means, I can play. I don't play from the office - perhaps Fencer should give me 225 extra vacation days.

21. December 2007, 01:14:34
alanback 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
AbigailII:  I'm in favor of giving you all the vacation days you want, if that will put you in a more generous mood ;-)

21. December 2007, 01:30:21
Czuch 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
AbigailII: Its funny... i think most people seem to play more from work than from home, so a holiday off from work is not a good thing for so many people!

20. December 2007, 23:52:16
The Col 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
Rose: Maybe because Channukah is a minor holiday in the Jewish calander.Now if you mentioned Yom Kippur.......

20. December 2007, 22:38:14
AbigailII 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
MadMonkey: We got extra vacation days/year to compensate for the fact that there's to block out period for holidays. Considering this is an international site, time outs would hardly happen if for every holiday somewhere time control is disabled for that day.

Of course, Christmas is only a "problem" for people who 1) don't have holidays left, 2) play games with a time control of 24hours/move or less, 3) aren't taking the time to move on Christmas, and 4) actually have to move that day. Considering that a combination of 1) and 2) is bad anytime, not only at Christmas, I'd say that it's just bad planning, and rules shouldn't be reinstated because of that.

21. December 2007, 10:01:37
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
MadMonkey: you could set your weekend to tuesday and wednesday .. that way christmas andthe 1st of january would be covered

personally i think 35 vacation days per year are more than enough .. i even am not in favor of people buying extra vacation days .. although its a good income for brainking it also favors the rich people which unbalances the world enough already :)

it would be a good habit to set christmas as a vacation day at the start of the year already

maybe its a good idea to turn of automatic vacation days .. that way you wont use a whole vacation day to prevent 1 single game from timing out and you might have more days spare at the end of the year which can be used to prevent more games from timing out

as everyone said we had 30 vacation days per year, then christmas became an ordinary day and we got 5 extra vacation days per year .. so in fact we got 3 more days per year (i think)

if we go with fixed holidays again then i want 1 for my birthday as well and for queensday .. as i cant play on those days either :)

21. December 2007, 18:44:05
alanback 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
Hrqls:  Excellent idea about the weekend.  

22. December 2007, 11:39:01
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: Xmas Holidays
alanback: well coan.net already mentioned it .. but a bit cryptic as he said he had his weekend set to tuesday :)

i always switch my weekend to the days most profitable before i leave on a vacation (this vacation sat. and sun. are the best days for me as i leave early sunday morning and come back on sunday

i always let automatic vacation take care of the first few days of my absence (as my opponent might not have moved .. and that way i save some vacation days :))

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