MadMonkey: it's also peoples choice to end their lives jumping from a skyscraper but my choice is to say it doesn't make sense ... while living 4 years in Austria I used to buy one schinken semmel and it was delicious ... there was no other choice (for what?) ... here in the USA I have 30 choices at Subway and do you think I feel better ? If you do, it means you never tried european bread and ham ... I hope I expressed well what's on my mind ... Andy.