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    9. November 2008, 16:12:08
    SEAWOLF2 
    Subject: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES


    I RECENTLY REPLIED TO THE POLL AND WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN CRIBBAGE AND WHIST MAKE THE SURVERY LIST.

    WHILE CARD GAMES USUALLY ARE FASTER MOVING (REAL TIME) IN NATURE AS A RULE, THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THEM FROM BEING
    PLAYED AS TURN-BASED GAMES.
    OTHER WEBSITES HAVE WORKED IT OUT FAIRLY WELL ACTUALLY.

    MY CONCERN IS WHETHER THESE
    GAMES WILL ALSO WORK AS WELL FOR WEBTV-ER'S AS THEY DO FOR
    THOSE ON PC. THEREIN LIES THE
    RUB! I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ALL THE GAME SITES, BUT BUG CAFE HAS FIGURED OUT A WORK AROUND FOR
    US WEBTV-ER'S FOR BOTH CANASTA
    AND CRIBBAGE.

    ANOTHER ISSUE IS GAMES THAT ARE PLAYED BY MORE THAN TWO
    PLAYERS. IF ONE PERSON DOESN'T
    TAKE THEIR TURN IN A TIMELY FASHION IT WILL DELAY THE GAME AND RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE. BUT
    THAT IS TRUE OF ANY GAME.

    THE CANASTA GAME AT BUG CAFE COULD USE A LITTLE BIT MORE
    TWEAKING AT TIMES, BUT THE
    CRIBBAGE GAME SEEMS TO PLAY
    OUT VERY WELL.

    AS WITH ANY CARD GAMES TRYING
    TO REMEMBER DISCARDED CARDS
    AND SUCH IS EASIER IN REAL TIME PLAY AS OPPOSED TO THE
    TURN-BASED STYLE. BUT IT'S A
    SMALL PRICE TO PAY IN ORDER TO GET SOME POPULAR CARD GAMES
    ONLINE. I'M ALL FOR IT AND
    HOPE FENCER AGREES THAT IT'S
    WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT TO
    BRING SOME CARD GAMES HERE TO
    BRAINKING.

    GO FOR IT, FENCER!!

    9. November 2008, 18:46:29
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    SEAWOLF2: You are wrong. Here are your words:
    "AS WITH ANY CARD GAMES TRYING
    TO REMEMBER DISCARDED CARDS
    AND SUCH IS EASIER IN REAL TIME PLAY AS OPPOSED TO THE TURN-BASED STYLE. "
    ***
    it's harder to remember and this is what makes card masters and the crowd ... in turn-based card games it's impossible to remember discards when you make a break, even 1 hour, not even mention days or weeks ...
    and this is the way you make remembering easier, but this is cheating not remembering ...
    If you want to remember you HAVE to make notes and this feature creates different kind of game ... it's no longer card game we know and enjoy ... true card players will never accept turn-based system ... of course, you make available, but this is like warming up ice cream in microwave ... it's possible but it makes no sense ...
    Andy.

    9. November 2008, 19:08:57
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    KnightFighter: Then don't play them, and let those that want to play them do that.

    9. November 2008, 19:15:44
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    rod03801: someone has to "manufacture" a software for this new trend ... stop making this impression that this is something what we cannot live without and push Fencer to follow the crowd ... there are many gaming sites that are from the same candy-like factory ... I never stay long there, just register, look around and leave ... you know why ? because they do not have a soul, they are the same product like mac, burger king and cheap disney ...
    Andy.

    9. November 2008, 20:07:39
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    KnightFighter: I really do understand, Andy. But, if you read the news, he has already been working on this. Adding a new game type to this site (especially this type) does not make it "cookie-cutter". (It is rare to see this game type on a site of this sort). Adding this new game type does not change what is already here and gives this great site its personality.

    Who said we can't live without it? It is Fencer's site, and he has already decided to do it. Most other people seem happy with this idea, why rain on their parade? If it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out. It wouldn't be the first game that was added that probably didn't work out quite the way it was hoped it would.

    I have agreed with you that a vast majority of card games would not work out here. However, that shouldn't stop the very few that would, from being here. And as Fencer said, the new game is not going to be the traditional turn-based type. If anything, this could be the start of a "new generation" of game types/play on this site. It's pretty exciting.

    9. November 2008, 20:23:59
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    rod03801: You said: "I have agreed with you that a vast majority of card games would not work out here."
    ***
    And I am talking about vast majority not about table-top-implementations of card games ... which in a sense are table or board games using cards to "move around" ... if you want to treat seriously card games in turn-based site you better be prepared to open your notebook and make notes ... otherwise, it will be just discarding and drawing without any sense ... if majority like this kind of nonsense, that's fine. I am warning only of awaiting us disappointments.
    Andy.

    9. November 2008, 20:27:47
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    KnightFighter: I agree. I am a card lover. I do not like the idea of making notes in a card game. It takes away a big part of what the game is all about it.

    I again remind you of this post however : Opinion polls (Fencer, 2008-11-07 07:50:09)
    It is not going to be turn based.

    9. November 2008, 20:30:28
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    rod03801: ok, we agree and now we cab stop this discussion .. this is what I really wanted to hear from you.
    thanks,
    Andy.

    9. November 2008, 20:33:10
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    KnightFighter: LOL. Whatever. The whole "turn based" part of the argument is inconsequential however since it (again) is not going to be turn based in the traditional sense.

    14. January 2009, 23:13:29
    painter 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    SEAWOLF2:Yes cribbage and whist,I do thinck are very 2 game's,I would like to see .
    also I like back Jack.from painter

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