If Mark Williams had made his comments in the UK. He'd be charged with Racism and/or racist comments.

A national leader of the conservative Tea Party movement has been strongly criticized by Islamic civil rights leaders for referring to the proposed site of a New York City mosque as a place for Muslims to worship "the terrorists' monkey-god."

Tea Party Express organizer Mark Williams blogged on his Web site last week that the mosque - to be constructed near the former site of the World Trade Center - would be a "monument ... for the worship of the terrorists' monkey-god and a 'cultural center' to propagandize for the extermination of all things not approved by their cult."

Williams, who also referred to "animals of Allah," was rebuked Thursday by the Council on American-Islamic Relations. The group issued a release Wednesday calling on other Tea Party activists to repudiate Williams' remarks.

"It would be shocking if such ignorant comments failed to elicit a strong response not only from Tea Party leaders, but from other parties throughout the political spectrum," CAIR National Legislative Director Corey Saylor said.

For his part, Williams was unapologetic toward Muslims.

"In the course of the article I described the 'god' worshiped by terrorists as 'a monkey god,'" he wrote on his Web site. "I was wrong and that was offensive. I owe an apology to millions of Hindus who worship Lord Hanuman, an actual Monkey God."

Hanuman is known to followers of the Hindu faith as a symbol of strength and devotion, among other things.

Hanuman "is known as a destroyer of evil and to inspire and liberate," Williams said. "Those are hardly the traits of whatever ... it is that terrorists worship and worthy of my respect and admiration not ridicule."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/20/islamic-leaders-decry-tea-party-reference-to-muslim-monkey-god/?fbid=oZKl-S5T2np

Ferris Bueller: Not everyone was behind votes for women.. but they still got the right. Not everyone was behind the working class having a vote.. but the law changed.

Tuesday: because many would take the news we ain't the top species of the universe .. very badly.

Tuesday: No we would not. That we know we live in a universe is something that was found out less than 60 years old. We know so little, that the ability to find planets around other stars is less then 10 years old. Pluto was reclassified not long ago as the existence of other planets (dwarf planets) beyond Pluto has been confirmed as the tech to see that deep in our own local space has gotten better.

As for official confirmation of ET visiting.. that was confirmed in a sense not that long ago when an Canadian ex minister whistle blew the USA cover up.

Ferris Bueller: I saw Glen Beck yesterday state that there is some racist element in the Tea party. It's no good (in his opinion/fox news opinion) stating there is no racist element as that would be a lie.

Tuesday: I have to defer on agreeing on the unique.. All sorts of talk about probabilities because of the size of the universe and multi-verses these days.... I could be King of England in one verse!!

Tuesday: Not always possible, available, or wanted.

Abortion being available is although not the perfect option (it isn't a perfect world anyway ) needs to be an option.

Tuesday: ... if Abortion is banned you will get babies turning up in trash cans. You might due to 'idology' find women killing themselves over the shame.

That split between not being able to kill the self and the body being not self is why I'm for limited but not unlimited availability to abortion. Just as I am for euthanasia.

Tuesday: The OT was written using a 4 deep meaning system, ie.. 4 layers of messages in everything. Proverbs tells us that God created wisdom (who is female in OT text) before anything else. In Genesis we see that we are created twice.. The first of spirit a male/female combination representing the different aspects of our spiritual side.. secondly physical in male and female form.

we are more than just a body.. you can kill a body, ie transform it into a non functioning biological machine that carries conciousness. Can you kill spirit/mind/conciousness?

Tea Party activists fund sign linking Obama to Hitler

A billboard advert in the US state of Iowa that linked President Obama to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin was removed on Wednesday morning. The sign, which was funded by a group of local Tea Party activists, has been replaced with a community service announcement.

Text on the sign had read: "Radical leaders prey on the fearful & naive."
The billboard had angered many in the local community, including other Tea Party activists.

A representative of the Iowa group called the billboard's owner and requested the sign be removed on Tuesday evening. A national Tea Party representative had called the controversial poster a waste of money, time and resources.

"It's not going to help our cause. It's going to make people think that the Tea Party is full of a bunch of right-wing fringe people, and that's not true," Shelby Blakely, of the national Tea Party Patriots group, told the Associated Press agency.
"When you compare Obama to Hitler, that to me does a disservice to the Jews who both survived and died in the Holocaust and to the Germans who lived under Nazi regime rule," Mr Blakely said.

Tuesday: It's like the flood... There was one big one same as there was a volcanic eruption that gave way to the Reed sea having a Tsunami but telling also.. Noah got drunk after all his work, his kids got ashamed of him. Stories within stories.

Tuesday: Cain was a story about jealousy.

Tuesday: Genesis says God breathed life into a body God made.. two seperate things .. a body and a lifeforce we generally call spirit or soul or both. By putting life into a body it implies that the body is just a vessel for life.

Tuesday: Not right v wrong.. it's about what is life.. a bolb of complicated carbon based life only or a organic robot carrying a life.

Tuesday: No there are two bodies. But babies can be born parasitic and by the nature of a pregnancy there is not quite a parasitic relationship, but it can be a battle.

.. without certain hormones the woman's body will treat the baby as a foreign organism. The baby attaches and feeds off the woman and cause harm in order to gain independent life.

But that is the biological machinary designed so complicated organic life forms can reproduce.

Another factor to consider. What happens if the woman who has been raped cannot stand carrying the child? Such trauma can take a LONG time to heal. If she chooses to discorporate.. then what?

Jim Dandy: It is said that the pill was a great shock to the male ego. No longer did being fertile mean having a child. It became a choice women could make.

Tuesday: They.. are an endangered species, we've been killing them for sport.. this is not sport. Ban abortions and you'll go back to the times of backstreet abortions. That was a barbaric time with many women dying from botch jobs. Yes, I agree abortion is not nice.. but so can dying from being told your body is not yours when it comes to some things.

Tuesday: From progs describing the having a baby.. it is a bit of a fight between mum and baby... that's why things can go wrong. It'll never be a 100% process.

Jim Dandy: No-one has. They are to afraid to face down the big corporations and lose out on the gravy train that comes after being in office. We have the problem in the UK even though there are regs and laws to stop such if caught.

Tuesday: If God didn't want abortions.. why does The I AM allow miscariages to happen, still borns and bad mutations? In some respects we do not show the same respect that we do to animals in the name of a collection of words often mistranslated and used. God breathed life into clay.. clay did not make life.

Jim Dandy: She'll never throw as good as one as the Queen's tea parties!! If they want to do something... end the lobbying system. But that has to be a national campaign transcending party lines.

When Blair lied and led Parliament into the war millions marched despite party as one.

Jim Dandy: .. I can see why that would cause a stir. Especially in the case of incest.. genetically that is a most unsafe prospect.. and what if the kid is adopted on and then wants to find out it's real parents.

Jim Dandy: Witch hunts never end up good... McCarthyism is a prime example. I say non entity as we in the UK have witnessed a party having two or more go for being elected as an MP.. It splits the vote. The Republicans might end up fighting a tea party favourite therefore losing out entirely to the Democrats.

Jim Dandy: The tea party movement will just cause the GOP to be a non entity regarding major elections. The Democrats must be laughing at the infighting over who's a better conservative. Just like happened in the USSR under Stalin and any other movement that has sought to micro analysis what it is to be a good party member.

Ferris Bueller: Aye.. I read that it changed since the 60's and then again in the 80's under Raygun. As did the the voting of the southern states from Democrats to Republican. It seems modern USA conservatives (such as tea party fanatics) have put idiology over their country.

You can't go back in time and think 'X' is right as the world has changed. The lines as defined under the cold war period have gone.

BBC compares 3 polls with an average +/- of 3% on accuracy.

Obama opinion ratings approx 50%... about the same as the Fox poll.

Average poll size.. about 1500

Think tanks

In 1971 Lewis F. Powell Jr. urged conservatives to retake command of public discourse by "financing think tanks, reshaping mass media and seeking influence in universities and the judiciary." In the coming decades policies once considered outside the mainstream consensus—abolishing welfare, privatizing Social Security, deregulating banking, embracing preemptive war—were taken seriously and sometimes passed into law thanks to the work of the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, the Fox News Network, as well as numerous corporate lobbying organizations and university professorships.

The meaning of conservatism in America has little in common with the way the word is used in the rest of the world. Since the 1890s conservatism has been chiefly associated with the Republican Party, though in the era of segregation the Southern Democrats, known as the Dixicrats, were conservative.[9][10][11]

Core conservative issues in the 21st century include reduced government regulation of business, resistance to world government and to environmentalism, opposition to abortion and homosexuality, support for Christian education in the public schools[12], support for the right to bear arms, securing the U.S borders, and strict enforcement of the law[13]. Conservatives emphasize their patriotism and claim to share the beliefs of the Founding Fathers. Many say that America is a Christian nation.[14]

The modern conservative movement is often identified with the ideas in Russell Kirk's The Conservative Mind, published in 1953.[15] In 1955, William F. Buckley, Jr. founded National Review, a conservative magazine that included traditionalists, such as Kirk, along with Roman Catholics, certain groups of libertarians, and anti-communists. In the 1970s moral issues—especially regarding abortion, sexuality and the family—became politically prominent and conservatives staked out distinctive positions, often with grassroots support from religious organizations such as the Moral Majority. This bringing together of separate ideologies under a conservative umbrella was known as "fusionism".

Modern conservatism became a major political force in 1964, when Barry Goldwater, a U.S. Senator from Arizona and author of The Conscience of a Conservative (1960), won the Republican presidential nomination after a fierce contest. He lost badly in the national election but permanently shifted the party to the right.

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Obama 47.1% .... 47.1%

From today's FOX news website!!!!!

John McCain paid $175,000 of campaign money to a Republican operative accused of massive voter registration fraud in several states, it has emerged.

As the McCain camp attempts to tie Barack Obama to claims of registration irregularities by the activist group ACORN, campaign finance records detailing the payment to the firm of Nathan Sproul, investigated several times for fraud, threatens to derail that argument.

The documents show that a joint committee of the McCain-Palin campaign, the Republican National Committee and the California Republican Party, made the payment to Lincoln Strategy, of which Mr Sproul is the managing partner, for the purposes of “voter registration”.

Mr Sproul has been investigated on numerous occasions for preventing Democrats from voting, destroying registration forms and leading efforts to get Ralph Nader on ballots to leach the Democratic vote.....

...he career of Mr Sproul, a former leader of the Arizona Republican Party, is littered with accusations of foul play. In Minnesota in 2004, his firm was accused of sacking workers who submitted Democratic registration forms, while other canvassers were allegedly paid bonuses for registering Bush voters. There were similar charges in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon and Nevada.

That year, Mr Sproul’s firm was paid $8,359,161 by the Republican Party, according to a 2005 article in the Baltimore Chronicle, which claimed that this was far more than what had been reported to the Federal Elections Commission.

....In May this year, both ACORN and Mr Sproul were discussed at a hearing of the House subcommittee on commercial and administrative law. One Republican member, Congressman Chris Cannon, concluded: "The difference between ACORN and Sproul is that ACORN doesn't throw away or change registration documents after they have been filled out."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/oct/13/election-acorn-voter-fraud

Here are the facts. Acorn verifies the legitimacy of every registration its canvassers collect. If they can't authenticate the registration, or it's incomplete or questionable in other ways, they flag that form as problematic ("fraudulent", "incomplete", et cetera). They then hand in all registration forms, even the problematic ones, to elections officials, as they are required to do by law. In almost every case where you've heard about fraud by Acorn, it's because Acorn itself notified officials about the fraud that's been perpetrated on them by rogue canvassers. Most officials who run to the media screaming "Acorn is committing fraud" know all of the above but don't bother to share those facts with the media they've run to. None of this is about voter fraud. None of it. Where any fraud has occurred, it's voter registration fraud and has resulted in exactly zero fraudulent votes.

You'll hear that Donald Duck, Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, Mickey Mouse and (new this year) the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team have all had fraudulent registrations submitted in their names. That's true. And we know this, why? Because Acorn told officials about it when they followed the law and turned in those registrations, flagged as fraudulent.

What you won't hear is that federal law requires anybody who does not register to vote in person at the county office to show an ID when they go to vote the first time. So, unless Donald Duck shows up with his ID, he won't be voting this November. You needn't worry, no matter how much even John McCain himself cynically and dishonourably tries to mislead you...

....as it's served to distract from very real concerns about tens of thousands of voters who have been illegally purged from the voting rolls in dozens of states, as the New York Times reported in a remarkable front page investigative story. That story followed a report the week before from CBS News detailing still more wholesale purges of voting rolls in some 20 states.

That will be the November surprise, when thousands, if not millions show up to vote only to find they are no longer welcome to do so and are forced to vote on a "provisional ballot" which may or may not be counted.

These real concerns of election fraud, such as voting roll purges, electronic voting machines that don't work and so much more that actually matters, have been obscured by the smoke and mirrors and sleight of hand of the Republican party's phoney Acorn voter fraud charade.

And where they can, they'll parlay it all into new photo ID restrictions at the polls (knowing full well that some 20m, largely Democratic-leaning voters don't own the type of ID they'd need to jump over that next Republican hurdle.)

Yet, with all of the unsubstantiated, wholly bogus claims of voter fraud being carried out by Democrats, there remains at least one case of absolutely ironclad, documented, yet still-unprosecuted case of voter fraud that, for some reason, Republicans don't much like to talk about.

We can only wonder why.

By Michael McDunnah

The McCain-Palin campaign and the Republican National Committee (RNC) spent the better part of the fall screaming about alleged "voter registration fraud," and to this day the GOP and the right-wing media machine continue to raise the specter of voter registration shenanigans that are somehow undermining the integrity of American elections. Now, after months of reckless invective and fruitless investigations, incontrovertible facts have been admitted in court, and someone has finally been convicted of voter registration fraud.

Fraud did take place in the 2008 election--conducted for, and paid for by, the Republican Party.
The Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday evening that Mark Anthony Jacoby, owner of a for-profit group called Young Political Majors (YPM), pled guilty to voter registration fraud in Los Angeles. Brad Freidman of the BradBlog has been keeping tabs on Jacoby for months, and wrote yesterday:

"Jacoby and Young Political Majors were hired by the California Republican Party to head up their voter registration efforts in the state. Jacoby had been arrested for Voter Registration Fraud last October, smack dab during the media's orgasmic heights of last year's phony GOP ACORN "Voter Fraud" hoax, even as Fox "News" (and the other news outlets who similarly fell for the scam) were going wall-to-wall with their unsupported insinuations about voter fraud by ACORN, Democrats and Obama."

......came after dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by people employed by YPM. The voters said YPM workers tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters."

According to the Times, "YPM has been accused of using bait-and-switch tactics across the country. Election officials and lawmakers have launched investigations into the activities of YPM workers in Florida and Massachusetts. In Arizona, the firm was recently a defendant in a civil rights
lawsuit." (In what was perhaps an attempt to define "irony" for the press, the state GOP issued a statement last fall calling the charges against Jacoby "politically motivated.")

Jacoby pled guilty Tuesday to personally lying on his voter registration forms to register at phony addresses in order to collect petitions. (California law requires petitioners to be qualified voters.) The Associated Press reports that, according to the District Attorney's Office, "two felony counts of perjury and one felony count of voter registration fraud were dismissed under the deal." Jacoby was sentenced to three-years probation and 30-days of community service.

Tuesday: .. Maybe it has something to do with the blondes!!

Tuesday: D in geography... explains it all.

As for Fox.. why do they feel the need to tell people what the news means? Hardly unbiased!!

Glen Beck blaming the state of the USA on progressiveness, public education and that we are not perfect... "we sin"..

so.. no such thing as perfect.. Glenn Beck is not perfect!! Conservatives cannot be perfect.

Kinda messes up the idol of a true conservative person or that of a true liberal person.

Mmmmmm

rod03801: Yes deep water is more risky especially if a company (like BP did) cut corners. If it's those who don't want drilling their back yard, that's normal. Everyone here has the right to protest or have an opinion regards new onshore drilling, and seeing as we've just found new deposits off our south coast.. there will be new drilling.

Tuesday: Doesn't need to be.. she just needs to invoke apple pie and make out she cares.

Tuesday: She's saying that BP is an extreme environmentalist company in disguise.

Tuesday: big government v big adverts backed and paid for by big business and big fees.

...It could be fair to say she won't compare herself to a polar bear.. she thinks they are a hindrance to oil drilling.

Pedro Martínez: I'm not disputing Nuclear power works. Out of nuclear or fossil fuel, I'd rather nuclear be used. It's not perfect (waste) but I've been in one and seeing the safety and tech used to counter the problems as well as knowledge on how to deal with radiation... It's a good energy source.

Microgeneration is a good system which through wind and solar tech can take our reliance of big power plants. If we can at home produce 40-60% of our energy needs then we reduce the need for expensive and possibly contaminating waste.

We have at the moment wind, solar and wave power as standards in renewable energy. Some countries can access steam.. thinking about I'm surprised Yellowstone has not been tapped. The tech is improving.

http://www.power-technology.com/projects/buenavistawind/

Buena Vista Wind Farm Repowering, California, USA

"A $40m repowering of the Buena Vista wind farm uses 38 1MW MHI turbines to replace older, smaller models. The larger 1MW turbines have allowed a reduction in the site footprint from 1,000ha (2,400 acres) to 160ha (400 acres) for the same power. The Buena Vista Energy LLC Wind Project is owned by Babcock & Brown Group (B&B) and General Electric, and is part of the Altamont Pass Wind Resource Area.

Babcock & Brown Group was contracted at the end of 2005, when construction began. MHI supplied the wind turbines, which came on line in December 2006."

Pedro Martínez: I was talking about microgeneration not windmill farms. But as for your figures.. I read 60 acres produces 1 MW...

But at the same time, 95% of the land involved is still free for other uses such as farming. They take less time (especially re microgeneration) to install as well as a great deal less money to build.

Can you confirm the date of your figures?

Pedro Martínez: I just googled to check that.. ... I found that claim is linked to a 1977 New scientist article by an MP on anti nuclear nonsense.

... Tech has changed in 33 years.

Tuesday: Especially with this new tea party movement.. Maybe conservatives in the USA need to look at other country's conservative values and learn a happy medium.

They cannot turn back the past and re-enact the golden era of the USA (the 50's??) as the world have changed. Countries who had to rebuild after WWII have. Pure so called socialist dictatorships have gone to have a mixed economy. People view the McCarthyism of ultra right politics to be counter productive and self destructive as much was Stalinism for the USSR.

Also if the conservative church goers read their Bible they would know.. no-one is perfect, not even the righteous, everyone sins. Otherwise the party will self destruct, I hear of infighting even now over who's the better conservative, the better Republican.

Maybe they should learn some Bushido

A story came up in the news about a school. It had installed one electricity generating windmill (a small one, not the massive ones)... that one small windmill generated 40% of the schools electrical needs.

... during school holidays the energy was sold to the national grid.

It makes you wonder how much our reliance on big power plants could be reduced if they became a standard.

Tuesday: And maybe to prove she graduated from high school. I hear that is as apparent as Bush's national guard record.

Tuesday: Sarah Palin as the opposition leader.... There goes the GOP funds. She'll need new clothes!!

Tuesday: I'm just wondering if the Tea party will go by it's manifest and drink tea.

Every country usually has at least one revolution of some form or another. We had one recently over expenses... it ain't over yet

The Industrial revolution.. Made Britain able to become the biggest Empire ever.

Up the British.. Down with the revolution.

Btw.. tea these days is foil bagged.. so throwing it in the water won't work