Artful Dodger: Yes we have a waiting list.. and they took steps to sort it.

And please.. with the cancer business, much of it was due to patient recognition. It is inappropriate to use statistics without the full depth of how they came to be.

doctors were overworked, but that was due to an archaic system of training doctors.. It's been sorted. And they are just introducing a new computer system, so any doc, etc can look up any notes they need online. And our nurses kept getting knicked by a certain allies hospitals. The training is so good. So a recruitment campaign started.

As for Red Tape... Changes are in place so I hear regarding the worst problems, but that could apply to the USA model of medical insurance. A patient waking up in A&E finding he has a big bill for just a Red Tape glitch due some very un Hippocratic attitudes. Our feedback systems are such that citizens can change things, and those who care are changing things our side of the pond. You know your system is not perfect, so what do you feel needs to be changed?

What is a perfect model Art? Surely if politics were dropped over matters of health....

And isn't it a bit corny using old figures after moaning about old figures, and not knowing the background behind figures??

BTW.... imho politics and running a country don't mix. In the end, it is what's best for the people. For eg.. despite party's here all claiming we want the expense system transparent, the voting was as such, that prosecution is harder. Despite criticisms of the PM and defence budgeting, our troops (by the two main parties) are not guaranteed what they need no matter which gets in. Despite Gurkha's fighting as British Army soldiers, it took public outrage and a certain Celeb to get them the right to live in the country they lived in for many years.

People change things, not parties.