(V): You're cracking me up dude... you could've just stopped after saying "No", because the rest of your message is essentially just one long "No".

You said [ Do you believe in a literal end of the world. Holy war.. all non believers will die... If you do, you've failed. ]

Where do you get this stuff?

If I asked you, "Do you really believe leprechauns don't play basketball because they are too small?" as though I'm implying it IS something you believe, would you defend your belief in leprechauns playing basketball?

No, of course you wouldn't. Because you are not stupid. You would recognise the question is flawed, and that it is only an attempt to distract you from a discussion about what you really believe. But here's my point, if you are not stupid enough to fall for such an obvious ruse, then why... I'll let you finish that thought. You're no dummy, you can figure it out.

Seriously V, that kind of end of the world argument is a cartoonish idea, invented by athiests to discredit the Bible and make Christians look foolish. I'm having trouble believing you came to that conclusion after an independent reading of the Bible. And by "independent" I mean without the help of commentaries. It's easier for me to believe you got this idea from an invented "interpretation" for reasons which should be obvious... to discredit something they (the anti-religionists) adamantly oppose... because it contracts their own world view.

But then I have to wonder how valid that world view could be, if they have to lie about a world view that opposes theirs? This is an example of why, even if I never came to believe in God, that I could no longer run with the athiests. They talk a lot about truth and logic and science, and then prove those things are only secondary to what (without question) they actually believe. Truth is usually the best tool for proving or disproving something, unless reality itself is false... then nothing you say or do would actually matter.

Where in the Bible do you see it saying the world (our physical earth) will no longer continue to exist? It will undergo a big change, so of course an old way of doing things will end, but the earth itself will still be here. And it doesn't say God will destroy the earth, it says that if He doesn't intercede we will manage to destroy ourselves, along with every other living thing. So, how does that line up with what you've been saying Christians believe? Did I misunderstand the point you intended to make?

By the way, it is possible... we literally have, or soon will have, the capacity to end all life on earth. If not all, then certainly most of it. It was a crazy idea for hundreds of years, and probably something for athiests to laugh about, because how could it be possible for mere mean to destroy all life on earth?

But things have changed, haven't they. So I wonder, how many athiests today still think this is an utterly ridiculous impossibility? Any?